Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Aug 2009 23:24 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Games As everybody had been more or less anticipating for months now, Sony has released the Playstation 3 Slim, a much smaller, lighter, and more energy-efficient variant of the regular Playstation 3. There's good news for people who held out on the PS3 because it was too expensive, and there's bad news for those of us who liked the idea of running Linux on the PS3.
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Why?
by Moredhas on Wed 19th Aug 2009 00:01 UTC
Moredhas
Member since:
2008-04-10

I want to know, is there some kind of hardware change going on that makes installing alternative OSs on it impossible, or is this just Sony being dicks and saying "nope, can't have that anymore" and taking the feature away from software?

RE: Why?
by judgen on Wed 19th Aug 2009 00:28 in reply to "Why?"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

I dont want to be a bitch or anything, but the latter alternative seems more probable. Using the PS3 Slim as linux clusters or even linux server/desktops is NOT profitable for sony in the long run.

Its my guess, but i'm wrong sometimes =)

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RE[2]: Why?
by dragSidious on Wed 19th Aug 2009 01:01 in reply to "RE: Why?"
dragSidious Member since:
2009-04-17

It's Sony being dicks. Which is natural Sony behavior. They are pretty much constantly huge dicks.


Sony did not want Linux users having direct access to hardware so for the PS3 they implemented a 'secure' IBM VM that blocked a lot of access. (the PowerPC platform (which the PS3 is a family member) is designed from the ground up for virtualization so that is easy compared to x86 system).

Hackers on Linux found ways around the VM so they could access the Nvidia video card and started figuring out how to get acceleration from that.

But later Sony firmware upgrades closed that 'hole'. And prevented that from working.


Now with people have figured out enough about programming with the SPE that Linux folks now have things optimized to the point were you can play 1080-sized HD video on the PS3 without needing assistance from the video card.

So that is probably one of the reasons why Sony decided to kill it. The other major reason would be that they figured there was no point in licensing the IBM tech for the new PS3 to save a bit of money.


This is the problem with having a computer manufacturer that is also a major movie and music producer. They probably figured that people having the free ability to play whatever media they want on the PS3 would lead to too much piracy going on with that platform... so instead they probably want people to do the 'PS3 Home' for all there entertainment.

Seriously. f--k closed computers like the Xbox and PS3. Those things have lots of potential and they are cheap so they should be perfect targets for people hacking and wanting little multimedia power houses.

(look what XBMC did for the original Xbox)

Now instead you have locked-down systems with limited media support and very limited functionality that is designed to remove as much money from your wallet in the most efficient and corporate-friendly way possible.

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RE[2]: Why?
by pcummins on Wed 19th Aug 2009 14:17 in reply to "RE: Why?"
pcummins Member since:
2005-07-10

Most likely there Judgen. Basically it's the razors + blades approach, Sony makes money on the blades (games) and not razors. I imagine if they're smart they'll offer an OtherOS upgrade license pack to cover the shortfall, otherwise the long term it means hackers will crack the PS3 since it's more tempting now target wise.

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RE: Why?
by apoclypse on Wed 19th Aug 2009 00:54 in reply to "Why?"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Yeah, I think they just blocked access int he firmware somewhere. Right now nobody knows if this will affect anyone who updates to the latest irmware or only people who get the Slim. My money is on anyone who updates.

Still this is what I've been waiting for. I'm definitley getting one now. Thank the heavens too because I was about to break down and buy an xbox360.

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RE[2]: Why?
by NiceGuyEddie on Wed 19th Aug 2009 03:18 in reply to "RE: Why?"
NiceGuyEddie Member since:
2006-03-22

Right now nobody knows if this will affect anyone who updates to the latest firmware or only people who get the Slim. My money is on anyone who updates.


As my PS3 attempts to model climate (and has never played a game), this would be rather annoying.

My contact at Sony seems to think the 3.0 firmware update will not (effectively) brick my machine....so I should remain happy.

It does mean that I can't justify my employer buying me anymore (Slim) PS3s.

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