Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Sep 2009 19:17 UTC
Internet Explorer Earlier this week, Google launched Chrome Frame, a plugin for Internet Explorer 6/7/8 which replaces the Trident rendering engine with Chrome's rendering and JavaScript engine for better performance and superior standards compliance. Microsoft has responded to this release, claiming it makes Internet Explorer less secure. Note: What database category do I put this in? Internet Explorer? Google? Choices, choices!
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RE: Comment by Kroc
by nt_jerkface on Thu 24th Sep 2009 22:38 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

What is exactly is being fixed? MS already has a fix for IE6, it's called IE8. They just aren't forcing the update because a lot of software was built around IE6.

If you want to direct your anger anywhere it should be at IT departments who refuse to upgrade or even install an alternative browser along IE6. A lot of IT departments will only upgrade if they absolutely have to.

IE6 only has about 9% share in North America and will continue to drop in the next few years as many businesses dump old xp machines for windows 7.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Ford Prefect on Thu 24th Sep 2009 23:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

The problem is that IE8 is also lagging behind! Its the same crap with MSIE as always. All browsers support feature X but IE. All browsers support feature Y but IE. Same old story, again and again and again.

And if there would bei IE20, and if they even would force it down everybody's ass, you could bet again on the fact that it would be missing standard features, has its own opinion on CSS, etc. and so on.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by nt_jerkface on Fri 25th Sep 2009 00:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

What are you saying? That people would be better off with IE6+Chrome plugin than IE8? That's a terrible idea from a security standpoint.

The real problem is that there is a large contingent of people that don't want anyone to use IE8 simply because it is made by Microsoft. They're ideologically driven and have no desire to judge software based upon technical merit.

It doesn't seem to matter that IE8 follows strict standards by default since there are just as many negative posts about IE8 as there were about IE6. If IE20 ever comes out we'll probably have to endure a thousand posts about how it doesn't follow standards because it hasn't adopted a 3 month old Skynet proposal.

Browser evangelism has really gotten old, especially on tech sites which are already visted by people that are more likely to use an alternative browser. It's preaching to the choir and I have to deal with enough religion/politics in real life.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by B12 Simon on Fri 25th Sep 2009 09:24 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
B12 Simon Member since:
2006-11-08

It depends hugely on your customer base. If you're writing web apps for consumers, broadly speaking they're reasonably up to date.

If, like me, you're writing webapps for schools and local government (or, unlike me, for corporations) you'll be supporting IE6 and loathing every minute of it for some years.

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