At PrepCom3, a dramatic last-minute deal drawn up by the EU may mark the end of the US government's control of the internet. In essence, [the EU called for] a new version of the current overseeing body ICANN and an end to the US government's overall control of the DNS. The US was scathing about the proposals, within minutes telling delegates that it "can't in any way allow any changes" that would prevent it from having overall control of the internet. Other countries, like Brazil, China, Iran and Cuba support the proposal. Brazil's ambassador outlined: "It is not a question of being anti-ICANN, it's about having a very clear and open and democratic and inclusive mechanism of overview of certain functions that today are performed by ICANN with no kind of supervision."
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Member since:Without US supplies, Britain would have fallen in 1940-1941. ITS A FACT, forget the massive amount of troops poured into Europe, just the supplies alone propped up the UK.
I'd like to understand just how the rest of the world was going to sink the Japanese Navy with no navy worth a damn of their own? It's hard to fuel your battleships when you have no oil, oil that the US shipped in droves to the UK at great cost.
PS NO ONE HAS PAID BACK THE UNITED STATES FOR ITS HELP IN WW1 or WW2, EXCEPT FOR FINNLAND from WW1. IT'S A FACT.
Iran, China & Cuba practice extreme censorship on their own government controlled internet access points. They limit religious freedom as well. They limit freedom of expression--JAILING THOSE WHO MAKE POSTS OR BLOGS that do not agree with their government's positions on economic policy or social policy IT'S A FACT--THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. The government of China HAS REPEATEDLY BROKEN INTO THE GOVERNMENT OF TAIWAN'S COMPUTER SYSTEMS TO SPY AND STEAL INFORMATION--REPEATEDLY.
These are measures that those countries HAVE ALREADY TAKEN and you want to give them MORE POWER? What the hell for? To what benefit?
Brazil's grovernment is as stable as my stomach after eating Mexican food.
Can you think of an instance where your freedom was limited by ICANN? Can you think of an instance where you would personally benefit from a multi-government control system?
I would like to point to the continent of Africa and ask these proud nationalistic Euros WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING? LOOK WHAT YOU DID! Nice work on those governments and caste systems you installed.
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PS NO ONE HAS PAID BACK THE UNITED STATES FOR ITS HELP IN WW1 or WW2, EXCEPT FOR FINNLAND from WW1. IT'S A FACT.
Because the US didn't win WW2. If Britain hadn't stood firm in Europe when bastards like Joseph Kennedy (yes, JFK's very obnoxious dad) wanted to sell us down the river then with a large power base in Europe the Nazis would have certainly conquered the US with the Japanese from the other side. If our deterimination in winning the sea war in the Mediterranean and Atlantic hadn't materialised, and we hadn't gained a clear technical advantage over the Nazis from a losing position, and if we hadn't conveniently forgotten the attack on Pearl Harbour, which we knew about, you would never have got into the war and you could have waved bye, bye to apple pie and be eating sour kraut by now (or sushi). We led an intelligence war the silly Americans didn't even know existed.
Yes, Britain and other countries needed the US in the war because of the resources needed to fight, but this attitude that gung-ho America single-handedly won the war is just total bollocks. We won it together. Yes there was the Battle of Britain etc., but do we forget the Poles, Canadians, Australians and others who died unknown thousands of miles from home? No we don't. This self-righteous way in which a lot of Americans see themselves is going to come a cropper sooner rather than later.
The fact that we won wars all together, and we collaborate and do things together, means that we should have equal and fair transparency for the internet, since we all depend on it. If not, then I can see a situation where the US is cut off and the rest of the world creates its own internet. It really is not that difficult to do.
Member since:"Without US supplies, Britain would have fallen in 1940-1941. ITS A FACT, forget the massive amount of troops poured into Europe, just the supplies alone propped up the UK. "
Get your chronology right. By the time the US joined, the Battle of Britain had been won, so there was no danger of an invasion of the UK. Also, Germany was losing on the eastern front. To be sure, the US joining helped bring the 3rd Reich down, but it did not save the UK from invasion.
But, what has that got to do with it? If the US is relying on an event that ended 60 years ago for its authority, it's pretty sad. Since then, though, it's messed up so many countries which people so easily forget, with the CIA propping up corrept regimes or the country engaging in illegal wars to maintain its oil supplies.
Anon (UK)
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I won't talk about history. I'd sugest that you ppl should go and buy some history books...
IMHO - todays USA is just like USSR in the 60-70'ties.
USSR leaders saw the world thru a `prism` of Stalinism-Leninism ( not exactly communism ).
Now the USA sees the world thru a `prism` of "every one is an enemy".
IMO USA should be told that the Cold War is over... till they get it.
And BTW before saying that fascism == communism, read something about true communism (and not Stalinism-Leninism).
PS: oh yeah, ant the WW II would have been won without USA a year later.