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General Unix I had the pleasure earlier this month of attending a demo day at HP's Cupertino campus to commemorate the ten year anniversary of the Superdome server, see what's new in the high-end server market and learn about what's going on with HP-UX.
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RE[2]: The IBM option
by joshuah on Fri 30th Oct 2009 10:55 UTC in reply to "RE: The IBM option"
joshuah
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Do you actually know the price of exadata? Do you really know what you are getting, when you buy Exadata? Or are you just trolling?
I know what you get when you buy exadata. You buy a bunch off x86 servers with SATA drives for a LOT of money, and you are stuck with that peace of gear, that can't run anything else then Oracle SW. And trust me Oracle RAC ain't cheap and Oracle RAC ain't what they advertise it to be. And you tell me IBM HW is overpriced?! On which you can get support for Linux/AIX...and you actually have a choice what to use, and no one is forcing you to use AIX?!


EDIT: dvzt, are you a manager or somthing? You sound like one, they love the marketing slides and the fancy charts. And most of the times they don't have a clue on the matter at hand.

Edited 2009-10-30 11:09 UTC

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RE[3]: The IBM option
by tylerdurden on Fri 30th Oct 2009 16:31 in reply to "RE[2]: The IBM option"
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2009-03-17

Wait a second, are you saying that a negative point of an application specific machine like exadata is that is not general purpose? Whaaaaaaaa?

You'd be shocked to know that the customers which are buying those machines like hotcakes do so because it runs their tailored oracle apps really, really fast. That is why the purchase them, not because they wanted to run something else. Jeez.

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RE[3]: The IBM option
by dvzt on Fri 30th Oct 2009 17:32 in reply to "RE[2]: The IBM option"
dvzt Member since:
2008-10-23

Do you actually know the price of exadata? Do you really know what you are getting, when you buy Exadata? Or are you just trolling?
I know what you get when you buy exadata. You buy a bunch off x86 servers with SATA drives


...and infiniband HCAs, switches, Oracle RDBMS (== expensive)


for a LOT of money, and you are stuck with that peace of gear, that can't run anything else then Oracle SW.


So what? Any reasonable application can use Oracle as its database backend. You will hardly want to use that hardware for a different purpose.


And trust me Oracle RAC ain't cheap and Oracle RAC ain't what they advertise it to be.


Tell me then, what is it? I must have been fooled. ;)


And you tell me IBM HW is overpriced?! On which you can get support for Linux/AIX...and you actually have a choice what to use, and no one is forcing you to use AIX?!


I would choose AIX instead of Linux any day.

But let's get back to the topic: Exadata V2 was just an example of another "lethal machine". Let's compare oranges to oranges. (and apples to Apples under yet another Psystar article) IBM p595 was recently beaten by a cluster of Sun T5440s, giving better price/tpc-c, smaller latency etc... That's what I was talking about. IBM is known to be overpriced.


EDIT: dvzt, are you a manager or somthing? You sound like one, they love the marketing slides and the fancy charts. And most of the times they don't have a clue on the matter at hand.


Sorry to disappoint you, but no, just a regular sysadmin.
While I always enjoy a good manger/sales people bashing, you should make sure not to act like one, too. And you kind of did that - appliances shouldn't be compared to general purpose servers.

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