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Now, if only the Ubuntu team had done any form of q/a, I could've actually enjoyed that desktop software you're talking about.

As it stands now, I'm using an Intel video chipset. Meaning, no Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because the Ubuntu team failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips.

Fail. "

Ubuntu don't write the Intel graphics drivers, Intel does.

Intel graphics chips work fine on each machine I have tried which has an Intel GPU. Admittedly, that is a very small sample set.

Is this the bug?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+...

It is confirmed, and set to high importance.



So you cannot say that Ubuntu didn't test it, only that Intel apparently haven't fixed it yet.

That's just one of the countless ways the problem acts out. Some people have it crashing during install, others during live CD, and again others during the first few minutes of use. Others, even, during the use of specific applications. It happens on fresh installs as well as dist-upgraded ones.

The common denominator? Intel video chips.

Finger-pointing is the usual response from the Linux community, and you fall in line like a perfect little monkey. If the current Intel video driver is to blame (which I doubt, since this problem is Ubuntu-specific) then Ubuntu should ship with a driver that DOES work. That is their responsibility.

Imagine going to restaurant, and then ordering a nice dinner. However, the meat is completely rotten, and tastes like vomit. Would you accept it when the chef says: "hey, my meat guy shipped me this rotten meat. Go complain to him, it's his fault."?

Of course you wouldn't. You would ask the chef why he didn't use some other meat.

Edited 2009-11-03 09:33 UTC

That's not really the Ubuntu team's fault. Phoronix has been on for a while about how ungodly awful the Intel drivers are -- and, IIRC, those drivers are actually supported and developed by Intel. The Ubuntu team's pretty much had a choice between living with wretched drivers as best they could, or just having you use the vesa driver. Which would you prefer?

Now, if only the Ubuntu team had done any form of q/a, I could've actually enjoyed that desktop software you're talking about.

As it stands now, I'm using an Intel video chipset. Meaning, no Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because the Ubuntu team failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips.
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I'm running on Intel video chipset here and don't have any problems so saying the problem is on the most common brand of video chips is misleading at best. If all intel video cards had huge amount of problems this would be all over the forums, but it's not. So maybe you should relativate to "the Ubuntu tem failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips in combination with my specific configuration of hardware". That would be honest.



Come on this is ridiculous every new release has some problems, look at the auto-reboot problems for windows 7.

Also, look at the sate of nVidia drivers when Vista was first released.

Now, if only the Ubuntu team had done any form of q/a, I could've actually enjoyed that desktop software you're talking about. As it stands now, I'm using an Intel video chipset. Meaning, no Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because the Ubuntu team failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips. Fail. "

Here you go, Thom, this may be a work-around for you:

http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/11/are-your-graphics-dead-in-...

The problem is apparently with kernel mode setting, which is causing X to die.

To disable kms, pass the parameters "i915.modeset=0" to the kernel on boot. The linked article has instructions for doing this for the liveCD and also for the Ubuntu subsequently installed to hard disk.



Now perhaps you can.

Here you go, Thom, this may be a work-around for you: http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/11/are-your-graphics-dead-in-...
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Or, if that work-around doesn't float your boat, then Mandriva 2010 is out:

http://blog.mandriva.com/2009/11/04/mandriva-linux-2010-is-out/

Enjoy.

Now, if only the Ubuntu team had done any form of q/a, I could've actually enjoyed that desktop software you're talking about. As it stands now, I'm using an Intel video chipset. Meaning, no Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because the Ubuntu team failed to test their release on the most common brand of video chips. Fail. "

Just to be fair, here are work-arounds for some entirely similar problems one finds with Windows 7:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/12-common-...

This might help some people get around a similar lack of q/a for the Windows 7 Fail.

Exactly. A lot of the people who complain about Linux are kinda conveniently ignoring the severe flaws that plague almost every OS. Like I've said time and again, having a wretched-coded driver drop the kernel is in no way a unique failing of Linux; I know for certain that it affects Vista too, at least, because it's happened to me. On more than one occasion.

Software is never perfect; there're always bugs. Linux has flaws; Windows has flaws; Os X has flaws. Can we all please stop yelling about how "Oh my God, that OS you use is so much worse than mine, it does this this and this and OH MAH GAWD IT ARE AWEFULL!"?