Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Nov 2009 14:58 UTC
In the News It is no secret that Microsoft is doing whatever it can to eat away at Google's immense market share of the search market, with Bing being its most ambitious effort yet. Well, it seems the battle just got a whole lot dirtier, as The Financial Times has uncovered news that Microsoft has approached several news content providers, offering them money if they "de-index" their sites from Google.
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RE: Rubbish
by tomcat on Tue 24th Nov 2009 00:43 UTC in reply to "Rubbish"
tomcat
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2006-01-06

Delisting all big commercial news publishers won't hurt Google one bit.


What are you smoking? Of course it will hurt Google. It means Google has lower-quality indexed news content, relative to its competitors. It means that many people will start using more than one search engine -- one for news and the other for anything else -- which will inevitably hurt Google.

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Rubbish!
by kragil on Tue 24th Nov 2009 01:33 in reply to "RE: Rubbish"
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2006-01-04

Nope, the internet is full with copies of the same "news". When all the commerical vendors go to Google, nobody will care because the information is still out there and indexed by Google.

There are a lot of public news organisations that aren't allowed to delist google, then there are sites like Huffington Post that will never delist Google.

And paying for indexing in general will not happen, even MS isn't that stupid. Then the genie would be out of the bottle.
The basis of search is that you can index for free. Their whole business model would be dead if they start to pay for indexing.

Indexing premium content from behind the paywall maybe.

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RE: Rubbish!
by tomcat on Tue 24th Nov 2009 05:40 in reply to "Rubbish!"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Nope, the internet is full with copies of the same "news". When all the commerical vendors go to Google, nobody will care because the information is still out there and indexed by Google.


You actually think that it will escape the notice of all of the "commercial news vendors" that they can make money by allowing someone other than Google to index their content? I wouldn't bet on it. But that's essentially the dilemma that Google's going to have to wrestle with. One thing is certain: Newspapers are going out of business because they can't monetize giving away news for free (duh). They will either evolve and copy NewsCorp, or they'll make a deal with Google. Either way, things are going to change.

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RE[2]: Rubbish
by lemur2 on Tue 24th Nov 2009 01:40 in reply to "RE: Rubbish"
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2007-02-17

Of course it will hurt Google. It means Google has lower-quality indexed news content, relative to its competitors.


That depends entirely on what you might mean by "quality".

Many people would turn the definition around on you ... in their minds "quality" content might well be defined as "the easiest readable story able to be found on Google".

It means that many people will start using more than one search engine -- one for news and the other for anything else -- which will inevitably hurt Google.


This also depends. It may well actually mean that some sites which have severely overestimated their own importance in the public's mind could effectively disappear from public view, never to be heard from again.

kragill:
Nope, the internet is full with copies of the same "news".


Precisely. Many people will just read whichever version of the story which is the first hit on Google.

Edited 2009-11-24 01:44 UTC

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