Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Nov 2009 00:06 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft has delayed the open source release of their Windows 7 USB/DVD tool, which contained GPL code. "As you know, Microsoft recently committed to making the source code as well as binaries for the Windows 7 USB/DVD Tool available this week, under the terms of the General Public License v2 as described here. While we worked extremely hard to try and get the code ready for release by today, we still need to test and localize it. Our goal is now to release the tool in all languages on the same day in the next few weeks. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work to make the Windows 7 USB/DVD Tool available once again."
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RE[4]: Comment by Redeeman
by Redeeman on Tue 24th Nov 2009 16:21 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Redeeman"
Redeeman
Member since:
2006-03-23

"I realize that, what im trying to do is expose their decietful half-compliance....


There is no evidence of deceit on Microsofts part. The tool was written by a contractor, so it may be just what MS says it is, a mistake on their part, and an infringement by the subcontractor. At least they owned up to it and are abiding by the GPL.
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except they are NOT abiding by the GPL, as they are not distributing the EXACT source required to build the original tool.

and using a subcontractor is not a valid excuse, THEY distributed the tool, THEY have the responsibility.

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RE[5]: Comment by Redeeman
by bornagainenguin on Tue 24th Nov 2009 17:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Redeeman"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

Redeeman explained...

except they are NOT abiding by the GPL, as they are not distributing the EXACT source required to build the original tool.


Exactly. I find mysel;f wondering with each day of delay what other GPL'd code might be inside that Microsoft is desperately scrambling to remove before they get caught...

I hope that experienced hackers are going to be bringing scrutiny to bear and carefully doing a code comparison between what Microsoft gives and what they had before...

--bornagainpenguin

PS: Could we please have a report spam button? -1 Troll doesn't cut it and there is no way to mod these dumb spammers down now that I'm making this post.

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RE PS:
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 24th Nov 2009 17:58 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Redeeman"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Seconded. We should write an OSNews spam notification program for Thom's Iphone. Or is there an app for that?

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

To put on my hat of suspicion, I think they may not be releasing the full, original source, because it violates more than just the GPL.

I wouldn't be surprised if it also contains some code under the Sun Community Source License, and Apple Public License, and some code stolen from IBM, and some code stolen from Adobe. So by admitting to as little as possible, they can avoid a lawsuit from a major player.

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RE[5]: Comment by Redeeman
by BluenoseJake on Tue 24th Nov 2009 22:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Redeeman"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

if they don't own all the source, they can only distribute the GPL portions of it. That's the way it works.

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RE[6]: Comment by Redeeman
by umccullough on Wed 25th Nov 2009 01:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Redeeman"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

if they don't own all the source, they can only distribute the GPL portions of it. That's the way it works.


Well, technically, anyone who puts their own source together with GPL code and distributes the derivative work must release all the code...

If the company that did this could not release the other source code, then they were not allowed to use the GPL code in the first place - thus making it a violation from step 1.

It's very simple, that's the way it works.

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