Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Nov 2009 17:57 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu At the Ubuntu Developer Summit, which took place last week, it was announced that the next release of the Ubuntu Linux distribution, version 10.04, will no longer carry the GIMP in its default installation. This actually touches upon somethin I've been wanting to talk about, a problem that plagues both Linux and Mac OS X: Paint.NET is Windows-only.
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Lets get some basics here.
by oiaohm on Wed 25th Nov 2009 22:58 UTC
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2009-05-30

Lot of people Say KDE dependencies are heavy. Size mono. Seriously size it. Both run-times are about the same weight.

Now the numbers of applications mono can provide can be counted on one hand. Every one of them has a fairly good or great KDE replacement or worse like tomboy have a gtk replacement that don't require the overhead of the mono runtime. digiKam.org great for just the light image workers it also keeps track of the media files.

Now if KDE runtime is too heavy so is mono. F-Spot is too heavy. GIMP can be skinned and cutdown. Start up time problem of GIMP is a design flaw. Basically make a skin for GIMP to look like F-Spot all the advantages of a useful interface none of the nightmares of mono.

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RE: Lets get some basics here.
by lemur2 on Wed 25th Nov 2009 23:31 in reply to "Lets get some basics here."
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2007-02-17

Lot of people Say KDE dependencies are heavy. Size mono. Seriously size it. Both run-times are about the same weight. Now the numbers of applications mono can provide can be counted on one hand. Every one of them has a fairly good or great KDE replacement or worse like tomboy have a gtk replacement that don't require the overhead of the mono runtime. digiKam.org great for just the light image workers it also keeps track of the media files. Now if KDE runtime is too heavy so is mono. F-Spot is too heavy. GIMP can be skinned and cutdown. Start up time problem of GIMP is a design flaw. Basically make a skin for GIMP to look like F-Spot all the advantages of a useful interface none of the nightmares of mono.


It is even more "basics" than that.

If we are counting the relative dependencies of shipping Ubuntu/Kubuntu desktops, for example, then the relative comparison of "heaviness" is as follows:

Ubuntu (GNOME): GNOME libs + GTK+ libs + Mono
Kubuntu (KDE4): KDE libs + GTK+ libs + Qt

The Kubuntu desktop dependencies are in fact the lighter of the two.

BTW: a GTK+ desktop, such as XFCE or LXDE, does not include the GNOME libs. People seem to keep forgetting about the GNOME libs, for some reason.

Edited 2009-11-25 23:41 UTC

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RE: Lets get some basics here.
by Luminair on Wed 25th Nov 2009 23:40 in reply to "Lets get some basics here."
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2007-03-30

"the nightmares of mono"

can you link me to something describing the "nightmares of mono"

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RE: Lets get some basics here.
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Nov 2009 00:43 in reply to "Lets get some basics here."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Basically make a skin for GIMP to look like F-Spot all the advantages of a useful interface none of the nightmares of mono.


GIMP 2.8 ?


http://veerasundar.com/blog/2009/09/good-news-for-gimp-users-gimp-2...

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