Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Dec 2009 17:55 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
KDE Over the weekend, the KDE team has released KDE Software Compilation 4.4 beta 1. "Today, KDE has released a first preview the KDE Software Compilation (KDE SC), 4.4 Beta1 The first beta version of KDE SC 4.4 provides a preview and base for helping to stabilize the next version of the KDE Desktop, Applications and Development Platform."
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Impressive!!
by tubatodd on Mon 7th Dec 2009 20:03 UTC
tubatodd
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2007-07-03

This may be the release of KDE that has me switch BACK from Gnome. (I used KDE3 for a few years) KDE 4.4 looks wonderful and intuitive. Although I am REALLY hoping that the Gnome developers will "get it right" when they release version 3, KDE4 looks like a nice alternative for me. I also like seeing the tremendous progress the KDE developers have made since the start of KDE4. Outstanding!

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RE: Impressive!!
by vivainio on Mon 7th Dec 2009 21:44 in reply to "Impressive!!"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

This may be the release of KDE that has me switch BACK from Gnome.


I hope so too - I was happily using KDE until 4.3 & Karmic. We really, *really* need an ultra solid KDE for Lucid Lynx, or KDE will miss a huge opportunity at corporate desktop.

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RE[2]: Impressive!!
by DeadFishMan on Mon 7th Dec 2009 23:15 in reply to "RE: Impressive!!"
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2006-01-09

This may be the release of KDE that has me switch BACK from Gnome.

I hope so too - I was happily using KDE until 4.3 & Karmic. We really, *really* need an ultra solid KDE for Lucid Lynx, or KDE will miss a huge opportunity at corporate desktop.


If you're a true KDE fan, do yourself a favor and try it on something else other than Ubuntu/Kubuntu. In fact, I beg you to do it. Even if you cannot afford to switch distros - not everybody can or is even willing to - you might enjoy the experience on a secondary machine or VM. The difference is like night and day.

Apart from KNetworkManager, that's really on a bad shape right now and k3b that never seems to get out of its alpha status - it has yet to let me down since version 1.69.0~alpha4-1, though - KDE really shines. /me thinks that you will find improved stability that way. Not perfect yet but much better than what is given with Kubuntu.

K/Ubuntu gives KDE an undeserved bad reputation. I realize that some people might think that I am beating a dead horse but it just makes me sad to see the number of posters here that judge KDE based on their experience with K/Ubuntu...

Edited 2009-12-07 23:21 UTC

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RE[2]: Impressive!!
by Fusion on Tue 8th Dec 2009 00:17 in reply to "RE: Impressive!!"
Fusion Member since:
2005-07-18

"This may be the release of KDE that has me switch BACK from Gnome.


I hope so too - I was happily using KDE until 4.3 & Karmic. We really, *really* need an ultra solid KDE for Lucid Lynx, or KDE will miss a huge opportunity at corporate desktop.
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Couldn't agree more. I am beginning to realize that while the KDE platform has excellent technologies, integration, and innovation to it... the Distributions are really falling flat on their faces in packaging and configuring it well for their users. Kubuntu and even SuSE need to 'try harder'.

KDE should be "polished" and made attractive to not only power users (who love delving into every minor crevice of configuration options) but also the standard user (who maybe wants to change a wall paper every now and then). That means we need more sane defaults (a shared responsibility b/w the distro & KDE).

My pet peeves with the aesthetics/design of KDE4's UI:
1.) Too much wasted space...
- "Devices Recently Plugged-in" initial pop-up size is HUGE.
- "System Settings" window full of empty white space
- Toolbars/menus adding unnecessary height to my window while neglecting effective use of its (empty) width.

Some windows should expand as needed to accommodate the content they present (a la KRunner). (Speaking of KRunner---why does it allow you to resize and add empty unusable space, when the program takes over resizing once you start typing shit into it?!?!)

2.) The screen is WAYYY too busy. Many useful items are essentially rendered largely unused because of all the junk around them; nothing attracts my eye to 'em because of distraction from all of the surrounding items.

3.) Some animations are poorly implemented in certain instances. For example, I absolutely abhor the selection highlight box's lagging behavior. Take a look at the KDE SC 4.4 Preview (Part II) video, around 0:38-1:22 (URL linked in an above comment). The highlight box (gradually) follows your cursor, and moving the mouse across the entire span of selections increases this apparent lag. The highlight should follow my mouse tightly or just not be there at all; it leaves an 'unpolished' feeling for the user.


Despite my criticisms, I do follow the KDE 4 release with great excitement. =)~

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RE[2]: Impressive!!
by KAMiKAZOW on Tue 8th Dec 2009 01:00 in reply to "RE: Impressive!!"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

I was happily using KDE until 4.3 & Karmic. We really, *really* need an ultra solid KDE for Lucid Lynx, or KDE will miss a huge opportunity at corporate desktop.

1.) KDE is not tied to Ubuntu's release cycle.
2.) At least before Kubuntu's "Project Timelord" initiative, KDE was horribly broken on Ubuntu. See http://www.flickr.com/photos/19616885@N00/sets/72157608562200171/ for proof. The first "Project Timelord" release will be 10.04. Maybe Kubuntu will be bearable then.
3.) KDE works really well under openSUSE since 4.2.

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