Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Dec 2009 00:48 UTC, submitted by Yama
Hardware, Embedded Systems We've seen a lot of reports going back and forth about whether or not Linux is doing well in the netbook space. As it turns out, research firm ABI Research as well as Dell say about one third of their machines ship with Linux pre-installed - which is pretty darn impressive.
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Arn't linux netbooks a little cheaper though?
by Anon on Tue 8th Dec 2009 01:15 UTC
Anon
Member since:
2006-01-02

1/3rd of the geeks with netbooks most likely just buy a Linux netbook just to save some money up front?....

(... and just DIY windows install)

Edited 2009-12-08 01:16 UTC

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

1/3rd of the geeks with netbooks most likely just buy a Linux netbook just to save some money up front?.... (... and just DIY windows install)

How are 1/3rd of geeks getting Windows cheaper than major netbook vendors can, I wonder?

Edited 2009-12-08 01:29 UTC

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fsck Member since:
2005-07-06

Piracy.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

MSDN/Technet/Piracy. Or they could already own a copy, really, lots of ways

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tweakedenigma Member since:
2006-12-27

1/3rd of the geeks with netbooks most likely just buy a Linux netbook just to save some money up front?....

(... and just DIY windows install)


About 1/3 of the Geeks I know have been removing Windows and Installing Linux for years (myself included). Although I suspect some people buy the Linux version and replace it with Windows, I think about 1/3 is close to correct.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

1/3rd of the geeks with netbooks most likely just buy a Linux netbook just to save some money up front?.... (... and just DIY windows install)


If they are geeks, why on earth would they want to: regress their new Linux netbook machines; render them vulnerable to malware; reduce their functionality and criple their performance by installing Windows?

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

If they are geeks, why on earth would they want to: regress their new Linux netbook machines; render them vulnerable to malware; reduce their functionality and criple their performance by installing Windows?

Don't be so quick to bash Windows. It's not as bad as you'd like people to think it is. For example, my laptop just gained in functionality and performance after I removed Linux and went back to XP.

Now, I like Linux, I'm a stern supporter of F/OSS and I do wish Linux will sooner or later push Windows to the side completely, but that doesn't mean I need to spread FUD or try to derail discussions just to try and make Linux look better.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

If they are geeks, why on earth would they want to: regress their new Linux netbook machines; render them vulnerable to malware; reduce their functionality and criple their performance by installing Windows?


The geeks I know are capable of not getting malware.

If someone gave me a netbook I would put Windows or OSX on it just to have itunes and not have to deal with Flash/codecs on Linux.

It would have to have an ARM cpu for me to consider Linux.

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syiwabhairawa Member since:
2008-11-01

Check this : http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2497685

Many of us Linux users who were interested with Prolink Glee TA-009 which was sold with no OS at S$399, suffering because of its onboard wifi RTL8187B, which works normally in Windows.

Currently I need to resort to the pirated Win XP to make it workable.

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Ludicrous Member since:
2009-08-19

If they are geeks, why on earth would they want to: regress their new Linux netbook machines; render them vulnerable to malware; reduce their functionality and criple their performance by installing Windows?


Since I'm a UNIX-like OS user, I'll just take a wild guess as to why people might want to install something other than Linux.

Choice.

Not all people like the UNIX way of doing things.

Not all people want to deal with the upgrade treadmill of Linux distributions. By this, I mean something in the likes of "Hey, I want to install the latest version of _____. What? The distribution doesn't package this? I need to install a different distribution and/or version? Gosh, I'd rather just install service packs instead of having to install a new version of a distribution. It is possible to build from source, but then the package manager of the distribution will not automatically upgrade it (unless using source-based distributions). Compiling on a netbook is slow. Creating a cross-compiling setup is more trouble than it's worth.

Some people like using the software they are used to. Evident from this thread, is the desire of people to use iTunes on their netbooks. As great as Amarok is as a piece of software, it isn't exactly iTunes. Furthermore, I'm assuming iPods aren't supported (by the manufacturer) unless managed with iTunes.

It's great to teach users that there is a Free (both Libre and beer) software, but belittling a user's choice of OS is probably not in the best interest of all parties involved.

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jokkel Member since:
2008-07-07

Hello little FOSS Troll. Since you don't have any experience of your own, I will tell you my story.

I bought an Asus EeePC 901 about a year ago. I kept the installed Windows XP and dual booted Linux. Over the course of this year I tried the following distributions, some in several versions, on it: eeebuntu (renamed to easy peasy later), Ubuntu Eee, Crunchbang, and Ubuntu proper. The hardware support improved and is now stable and reliable enough.

But XP excels in all the points that matter to me most in a netbook:
- Boots faster
- wakes faster from sleep
- connects to wifi faster
- Firefox is much faster
- turning wifi and bluetooth on and off works without crashing the OS
- no need to install a new OS to get better hardware support every few months
- screen brightness is not changed randomly
- webcam and microphone works reliably

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Punktyras Member since:
2006-01-07

Because they can.
Not all geeks work with gnulux. Some are windows geeks (whatever that means).

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Anon Member since:
2006-01-02

Because Windows XP makes a great little O/S to run on a netbook....

Don't run as Admin, turn the FW, don't use IE. Done. Safe from Malware and with the benefit of having access to an absolute plethora of Win32 apps you can stuff around with on the bus. Beats playing with a Xterm session, or being forced to simply 'surf the internet' because lets face it, other than that, there's not a great ecosystem of DECENT applications under Linux.

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adundovi Member since:
2009-02-13

1/3rd of the geeks with netbooks most likely just buy a Linux netbook just to save some money up front?....

(... and just DIY windows install)


Well, I bought version of AA1 which ships with Windows, because it was 30€ cheaper then the version with Linux (same hardware!!!). And I just DIY Linux install ;-)

Am i g33k then? :-D

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shiva Member since:
2007-01-24

True Geeks don't use windows. Semi-geeks will do a dual boot (windows only to play games) or install windows in a virtual machine.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

True Geeks don't use windows.


Why not?

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gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

Given that most Netbook offerings which give you a choice between Linux and Windows offer the Linux netbook with less disk space (especially the SSD netbooks) and/or with smaller RAM, I know several guys who bought the Windows version (because of better hardware) and either made a dual boot setup or wiped the disk and put Linux on it.

I wonder why the manufacturers resort to dumbing down the Linux hardware, as the savings on 1 GB RAM and 4 GB flash memory can't be high. Especially since the demand for equally performant hardware as for Windows is definitely there. Maybe Microsoft still has contracts in place which forbid manufacturers offering the same hardware for Linux AND Windows.

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mgl.branco Member since:
2009-07-22

Taking into account how popular netbooks are and how many units have been sold, I don't think there's so many geeks in this planet.

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