Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:01 UTC
Internet Explorer It would appear that Microsoft will finally take standards compliance in the browser world seriously, after dragging its feet for years. Back in November 2009, the Redmond giant already revealed that Internet Explorer 9 would come with CSS3 and HTML5 support, and now the cup runneth over, as Microsoft has requested to join the W3C's SVG Working Group.
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RE[7]: Comment by Kroc
by Nelson on Thu 7th Jan 2010 18:54 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Kroc"
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The current implementation of Moonlight is behind what Microsoft has provided - couple that with crap/non-existant development tools on non-Windows computers, if you're a developer and on a non-Windows platform you going to be shit out of luck.

Moonlight implements most of Silverlight's functionality (with the exception of matured OOB support for example) but they can run 99% of the Silverlight apps out there. They even include some SL3 stuff like (iirc) gpu acceleration.

It sounds like it's really behind Moonlight2 vs Silverlight4, but really it is actually very close.

What Microsoft need to do is provide development tools for Mac and OpenSolaris - and I can assure you that very few would keep hanging around with Adobe for longer than necessary. The problem is that Microsoft is short sighted and I simply don't see the changes required actually happening.

I think they are certainly considering it, and certainly going to do it. You see Visual Studio moving more and more towards C# and WPF with large parts of VS2010 being written in WPF, and Blend is 100% C# and it is not that farfetched to envision them both as Silverlight Out of Browser apps like Office Live Web Apps.

I simply don't trust developers from refraining from using COM having see how lazy developers are when push comes to shove. I understand you don't need COM at all but that isn't going to stop developers from making extensive use of it when made available.

Well one deterrent is that you need to run full trust OOB applications to use COM automation. This means that normal embedded Silverlight content on the web wont be incompatible at all with Moonlight or Silverlight for OSX.

Yes, but Linux is behind the eighth ball for example, there are no development tools for Linux or Mac. I really want Microsoft to beat Adobe into a bloody pulp but it won't happen if they're refusing to provide the necessary tools for developers.

I agree and am hopeful that they go in the direction you suggest. However speaking from the perspective of just the plugin, it does a commendable job (Certainly better than Flash on OSX or Linux)

I want to use Silverlight and learn how to exploit its power but I'm stuck here with a Mac unable to do it.

MonoDevelop has Moonlight support, it's no Blend or Visual Studio but its usable.

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RE[8]: Comment by Kroc
by Mellin on Fri 8th Jan 2010 10:04 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Kroc"
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Moonlight doesn't have silverlight drm

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