Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jan 2010 22:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless During the iPad presentation, I was rather perplexed by Apple's claim to be the largest mobile device company in the world. Apparently, I wasn't the only one scratching his head, as Nokia itself, and even the Financial Times, is calling Apple out on its juggling with figures and definitions.
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RE: Has Nokia reason to fear?
by vivainio on Sat 30th Jan 2010 22:02 UTC in reply to "Has Nokia reason to fear?"
vivainio
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2008-12-26

N900 is the first phone with Maemo platform and it has certain short-comings, like f.ex. no multi-touch.


N900 does not really suffer from not having multi-touch at all. I'm happy with the "finger rotate" zoom on N900 - pinch-to-zoom may make for a nice demo, but I don't think the ergonomics of doing that are really that much better than the alternatives.

For me it is perfect, but for general public it'll probably still feel slightly lacking, so I see it as a development step.


N900 is not lacking as far as the UI goes (it's actually very appealing, not "raw" in the sense N810 and earlier Maemo devices were), but it's still a young platform and hence does not have tons of third party applications, apart from the open source ones.

Ah well, now that I think about it, this might be slightly off-topic. Just wanted to say that I do feel they've got a bright-looking future ahead of them and might really start to push back on high-end mobile phone market.


Qt is really turning a new leaf for Nokia. I'm horribly biased (as a Nokia employee), but it provides 5x better coding efficiency than the old Symbian C++ approach (or Gtk+), without sacrificing raw performance. Basically, Nokia is going to have superior technology stack when compared against Apple and Google, and this will certainly pay off.

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RE[2]: Has Nokia reason to fear?
by leech on Sun 31st Jan 2010 00:50 in reply to "RE: Has Nokia reason to fear?"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Speaking of Qt and the n900, when is the 4.6 goodness coming? I've seen quite a few videos of development stuff.

I am loving my N900, sold a Motorola Cliq to get it. It's full of awesome. Especially being able to use apt-get on it.

Sure it's missing a few features, as I've always said, it's more of a computer, with some phone things thrown in as an afterthought.

But the fact that it's a totally open platform is actually making me want to learn programming so I can develop for it.

Most of the people I work with have iPhones, and I haven't really seen any redeeming qualities that the iPhone OS has. Still makes me wonder why they didn't just make a Mac OS X tablet, instead of making a Huge iPod. But then again, with such an uninspiring name like iPad, what did we expect?

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Speaking of Qt and the n900, when is the 4.6 goodness coming? I've seen quite a few videos of development stuff.


You can already use all the goodness by installing the 4.6 beta. It installs next to the default Qt, so it won't break Mail for Exchange ;-).

Next official platform update will probably have 4.6 replace the old 4.5.3, but you can start developing with it already.

I am loving my N900, sold a Motorola Cliq to get it. It's full of awesome. Especially being able to use apt-get on it.


Yeah, and being able to ssh to the device and use gdb, strace, dbus-monitor... We are dealing with a real computer in the phone form factor.

Still makes me wonder why they didn't just make a Mac OS X tablet, instead of making a Huge iPod.


iPhone OS is Apple's own nice locked down turf, I'm sure driving more users and developers there is financially more useful to them than the actual sales figures.

The good thing about iPad is that it probably will make the tablet form factor popular, and we'll see tons of cheap, open variations on the theme coming out from Asia soon. Something you can slap Maemo, Moblin or Ubuntu on...

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