Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 23:25 UTC, submitted by Chicken Blood
Apple The beauty of the internet is such that every opinion has become worthless; this goes doubly so for those with publish buttons on (relatively, we're humble) major websites. For every opinion, there's a matching counter-opinion, and that's great. Yesterday, we linked to an article by Mark Pilgrim about tinkerers and the iPad, and of course, someone was bound to disagree with that one.
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RE[2]: Ironic
by slaytaniclemmy on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 06:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Ironic"
slaytaniclemmy
Member since:
2010-02-02

Exactly what consumer has Apple gone against in this regard? Please put said mythical consumer up on a pedestal so that s/he shall be known! I've seen a few jail broken iPhones, but not have I once seen an Apple extraction team!



The point is that someone has to 'break' into their own device to run software that they may have developed because Apple is too greedy to allow their software on the App Store.

I am not 100% up on the technology used to jailbreak an iPhone/iTouch, but I believe it requires some bending of the DMCA. If true, Apple implemented the security that 'protects' itself from jailbreak and thus forces people to violate the law to do what they want with their own property.

Here is a hit on a quick google of 'jailbreak DMCA' indicating that Apple was seeking protection under DMCA for users using this method to gain freedom on their property. I don't know where this went after 2/2009, but recent events (iPad) don't seem to indicate they have opened up.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3537

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RE[3]: Ironic
by nt_jerkface on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 07:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Ironic"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

The point is that someone has to 'break' into their own device to run software that they may have developed because Apple is too greedy to allow their software on the App Store.


Why is that person not being greedy in demanding that their software work on a controlled platform? There are options, you can buy a droid or build a web app.

The App store provides a trade-off. It doesn't allow installation of outside software but it keeps piracy and malware in check. Most users are happy with this trade off and the App store has attracted incredible developer support.

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RE[4]: Ironic
by Soulbender on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 07:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Ironic"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

That's not the point. The point is that Apple isn't the pillar of freedom that that famous commercial make it look like. Contrasting that commercial with Apple's actual behaviour does indeed create irony.
Not that the commercial ever had anything to do with how Apple actually worked as company.

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RE[4]: Ironic - piracy
by jabbotts on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 19:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Ironic"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

.. the only possible outcome of allowing a browser into the App Store which competes directly with Safari.

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