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RE[7]: Apple is like, psychedelic, man.
by MissingBeOS on Sun 14th Feb 2010 10:16
in reply to "RE[6]: Apple is like, psychedelic, man."
Just for giggles, you should read an interesting book called "Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire," by James Wallace and Jim Erickson. The authors took a pretty even-handed approach on their coverage. Reading that book puts a lot of things in this thread into perspective.
http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Drive-Making-Microsoft-Empire/dp/0887306...
RE[8]: Apple is like, psychedelic, man.
by tomcat on Mon 15th Feb 2010 06:32
in reply to "RE[7]: Apple is like, psychedelic, man."
Just for giggles, you should read an interesting book called "Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire," by James Wallace and Jim Erickson. The authors took a pretty even-handed approach on their coverage. Reading that book puts a lot of things in this thread into perspective.
http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Drive-Making-Microsoft-Empire/dp/0887306...
http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Drive-Making-Microsoft-Empire/dp/0887306...
I have read that book.




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Harvard didn't have a policy about usage of the PDP. So, the rest of your comment is nothing but hyperbole. They couldn't have been disciplined or expelled for violating a non-existent policy. But thanks for playing, anyway.
That's a nice fairy tale you've created, but it's just that. Gates and Allen were students when they were using the timeshare system. They had every right to use the system and, as I said above, Harvard had no policy governing its use. Microsoft wasn't incorporated until November 1976 in New Mexico. If you seriously think that any innovation which has its roots in academic research is tantamount to piracy/theft, then you're seriously nuts. Add Sergey Brin and Larry Page of Google fame to your list. They were working on doctoral degrees at Stanford when they created the first search engine. They followed a similar course to Gates and Allen. And there's a world of difference between developing an innovation while a student -- and having somebody pirate your work product.
BS. Complete utter BS.
Here, we agree.
Yet more hyperbole on your part. It's very easy to criticize Gates in hindsight based on rulings that Microsoft had a monopoly in operating systems and, therefore, whatever it did would eventually be considered illegal. But Gates and company were operating prior to that ruling and, therefore, anything they did was done without the knowledge that they would be violating the law. That's one of the ironies of antitrust law: You CAN'T know you're violating antitrust until a court rules against you. So "morality" had nothing to do with it.
None of them have "technical cred" today. Their innovations took place years ago, long before you were wearing diapers and sucking your thumb. So, really, trying to say, on the one hand that Allen and Wozniak deserve praise, while Gates and Jobs don't, smacks of hypocrisy or idiocy. Take your pick.