Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Feb 2010 12:22 UTC, submitted by kragil
Gnome GNOME hacker Seth Nickell has written a lengthy PDF and accompanying blog post with a number of very interesting ideas for GNOME 3.0. I pondered putting this up on the front page, but since that usually only attracts the "It's not what I'm used to so it sucks"-crowd, I decided to put it up here. Be sure to read the blog post, the PDF, and the comments on the blog post to get the entire picture.
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This is why Im leaving Gnome.
by Solkaris on Fri 26th Feb 2010 16:46 UTC
Solkaris
Member since:
2006-01-16

Thank you for deciding how I need to use my computer. I have used gnome since its first release. I paid for the Ximian releases etc. And I wont be using it anymore.

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artworx Member since:
2008-07-21

I'm sure you will be missed.

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Syirrus Member since:
2009-05-05

LOL

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RE: This is why Im leaving Gnome.
by Sodki on Fri 26th Feb 2010 20:31 in reply to "This is why Im leaving Gnome."
Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

Do you realise that metacity and gnome-panel will still exist and that you can use the desktop the same way as before?

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Thank you for deciding how I need to use my computer.

First of all, EVERY f--kING OS/DE does in one way or another enforce their own view of how you should use the computer, that's the whole point of it; if all worked exactly the same there'd be no point in even having more than one single OS and DE. Some focus on presentation of the filesystem as abstract objects, some focus on actual filesystem layout, some focus rather on presentation and manipulation of windows contents etc. Claiming that GNOME does try to make you do things in a certain way and that f.ex. OSX or KDE4 doesn't is utter bull; they all do it in their own ways.

Secondly, exactly how does these planned features hinder you from doing what you wish? All of them allow you to do the same thing as before, just in a slightly different way and providing ways of planning your actions over several days. Most of them are even customizable or can be disabled.

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DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Thank you for deciding how I need to use my computer.

First of all, EVERY f--kING OS/DE does in one way or another enforce their own view of how you should use the computer, that's the whole point of it; if all worked exactly the same there'd be no point in even having more than one single OS and DE. Some focus on presentation of the filesystem as abstract objects, some focus on actual filesystem layout, some focus rather on presentation and manipulation of windows contents etc. Claiming that GNOME does try to make you do things in a certain way and that f.ex. OSX or KDE4 doesn't is utter bull; they all do it in their own ways.

Secondly, exactly how does these planned features hinder you from doing what you wish? All of them allow you to do the same thing as before, just in a slightly different way and providing ways of planning your actions over several days. Most of them are even customizable or can be disabled.


While I do agree with you to some extent, it is important to point out that KDE goes a great length to ensure that the computer works the way you want and not the other way around. KDE 3 even more so than KDE 4 obviously, but KDE 4 is getting there.

You can change keystrokes, toolbars, default applications and with Plasma even the desktop itself - making it look and behave like other OS/DE if that is what floats your boat - so it is somewhat incorrect to state that KDE "forces" you to do anything. For example, I change most KDE/Qt applications' "Refresh" keystrokes - when that applies, of course - to F5 to match my old habit of pressing F5 to refresh web browsers while some people that I know prefer to press Ctrl+R. Neither Windows nor Mac OS X can claim such levels of flexibility.

On the other hand, GNOME tries REALLY hard to enforce its developers' vision on to your usage pattern. I guess that it works for some people but I'd rather have something that I can shape and mold to work the way I want or that fits my workflow better and not the other way around - reasonable defaults notwithstanding - so the parent poster's point still stands.

Edited 2010-02-27 00:56 UTC

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