Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 14th Mar 2010 15:12 UTC
Legal It's no secret to anyone that while Apple sued HTC, the lawsuit is more about Google than HTC itself. Since Android is open source, and owned by no one, it's kind of hard to go after Google itself, and as such, HTC was the prime target, since it is the number one Android smartphone maker. The New York Times has an in-depth article up about the subject, with a whole boatload of quotes from people within the two companies, and it paints a picture of all this being a highly emotional and personal vendetta - especially from Apple's side.
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RE[5]: The App-Starter...
by ricegf on Mon 15th Mar 2010 13:35 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: The App-Starter..."
ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

Well, I've been a Linux enthusiast since around 2000 (bear with me - there's a point, and I'm getting back to iPhone and Android in a sec, I promise!). My wife switched to Linux in 2007.

I didn't push hard for her to switch from Windows XP. Rather, each time I provided "technical support", I just casually mentioned why I never had that problem. "Another crash lost your data? I'm sorry. No, my computer hasn't crashed yet this month - it's Linux." "You *might* have a virus, let's scan and see. No, I don't need to scan my computer, too - it's Linux."

She's been very happy with her Ubuntu laptop, especially not having to worry about accidentally opening a virus-laden email.

She's getting deeply into digital photography now, and beginning to cast longing eyes toward Adobe software not supported on Linux. We may need to reload her WinXP into a VirtualBox session for just that.

But that's fine. I'm tech support, not management. :-D

So. If you decide to encourage your loved ones to move from iPhone to a more open mobile device, I recommend the carrot rather than the stick. If it really *is* best for them, helping them make the right decision is far more valuable in so many ways than making the right decision *for* them.

The latter is Apple's philosophy. Kapish?

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RE[6]: The App-Starter...
by KMDF on Mon 15th Mar 2010 14:30 in reply to "RE[5]: The App-Starter..."
KMDF Member since:
2010-02-17

//"Another crash lost your data? I'm sorry. No, my computer hasn't crashed yet this month - it's Linux." "You *might* have a virus, let's scan and see. No, I don't need to scan my computer, too - it's Linux.//

Funny ... my wife uses XP, and since I set it up properly for her, and gave her maybe three basic tips on using it ... she's never had a crash, nor a virus.

PEBKAC, I'd say, in your case.

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RE[7]: The App-Starter...
by ricegf on Wed 17th Mar 2010 15:40 in reply to "RE[6]: The App-Starter..."
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Well, bully for you! You set up one computer for one light user, and it didn't get a virus or crash. Woot!

As a computer professional for almost 30 years, I've dealt with tens of thousands of machines, from early Macs, Win1 to 7, Unix and Linux machines from pocket to super, soft and hard real-time embedded systems, and a lot of systems you've probably never even imagined (ever "vulcanize the executable"?).

As pretty much everyone with experience this broad will tell you, early WinXP had some serious issues with stability and with viruses. Here's the summary.

Stability problems were largely due to driver issues (the XP driver model had *serious* design flaws, which is why it was changed for Vista and 7 - GIYF). It had various other issues as well, particularly for heavy users, though most of those were cleared by SP2. One that wasn't cleared until Vista, though, was the astounding ability of Internet-laden malware to install itself silently *for every user of that machine*.

XP's design also made it a haven for malware authors, particularly the bone-headed "feature" that the GUI runs by default as administrator. Intertwining a web browser (!) with the core OS was also a godsend to the script kiddie crowd. And, of course, XP's sheer popularity - remember when they held 92% of the desktop market? - just painted a huge target on every XP machine with Internet connections.

Vista, despite it's poor reception (another post entirely), addressed many of these flaws, and 7 a few more. With extensive work (I have the scars), XP could also be locked down to some extent - but for professional level software to work, you usually needed a bolt-on security solution such as BeyondTrust (again, GIYF). Even then, social attacks are much easier with even SP3 than they need to be.

If all you want is to lightly browse the web, probably your wife's use case (but not mine), then you can probably create a "reasonably safe" original XP install. Of course, there are far better solutions for that simple case, Linux being one of the best.

But to imply, as you have, that XP was immune to viruses and highly stable, and thus anyone with a problem *is* the problem, certainly tells me you had mercifully little experience with the beast!

Windows (XP) is dead. Long live Windows (7)! And up with competition across the board!

Peace.

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RE[6]: The App-Starter...
by mightshade on Wed 17th Mar 2010 18:46 in reply to "RE[5]: The App-Starter..."
mightshade Member since:
2008-11-20

Rather, each time I provided "technical support", I just casually mentioned why I never had that problem. "Another crash lost your data? I'm sorry. No, my computer hasn't crashed yet this month - it's Linux." "You *might* have a virus, let's scan and see. No, I don't need to scan my computer, too - it's Linux."

Is this just your shortened re-telling? I think you did that in a much nicer way in real life.
Because, if you really had done it exactly the way you described, you would've come across as annoying. Perhaps even smug/trollish, you know what I mean. At least that's my experience with the people who thought they needed to "show me the carrot".

Anyway. What I want to add is, if you want to promote alternatives, don't overdo it.

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RE[7]: The App-Starter...
by ricegf on Thu 18th Mar 2010 01:29 in reply to "RE[6]: The App-Starter..."
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Haha, you may be right. I can't tell if I was annoying or not, but my wife didn't complain. Of course, she knows I was born a geek. :-)

I think knowing the person who's seeking your advice helps to guide how you present the idea of software freedom, and avoid the annoyance factor. I definitely agree not overdoing it is rule #1.

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