Linked by Kroc Camen on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:04 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Hot on the heals of Oracle's revamp of Solaris support, the licensing agreement for free downloads of Solaris 10 have changed. Here is the bit in question: "...Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software". So far the OpenSolaris license has not changed, it's still CDDL."
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RE: and who uses Solaris ?
by telns on Mon 29th Mar 2010 17:23 UTC in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
telns
Member since:
2009-06-18

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

Not a dig at Linux. Solaris just has a lot of years head start focusing on those kinds of environments.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by tony on Tue 30th Mar 2010 22:01 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
tony Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

Not a dig at Linux. Solaris just has a lot of years head start focusing on those kinds of environments.


"If it's been widely reported, that makes it Factesque"-Stephen Colbert

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by segedunum on Tue 30th Mar 2010 22:13 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

That must be how and why Linux has largely replaced Solaris in such areas and why Sun went out of business. I see the refrain still hasn't died.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by xaeropower on Tue 30th Mar 2010 23:13 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
xaeropower Member since:
2005-12-16

"Super high" loads like what? scientific applications?

I had linux and bsd servers with super high loads mostly used for lamp, web loadbalancers and they do just as well.

The only reason why Solaris, AIX still has market because some mission critical systems are built with them and they provide abilities such as hotswapping cpus,memory etc. or keep running in case of kernel panic.

I never had to work with solaris more than install and maintain it but my opinion is that its a major crap system and all the pros I heard from people like you is exactly like this.
80% of the ISPs use solaris, for what?
Asterisk works better on solaris, orly?
Write down a list of 10 applications which really scales better on it. I think you couldn't because those are all inhouse developed applications what you never heard of.

Edited 2010-03-30 23:14 UTC

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RE[3]: and who uses Solaris ?
by Kebabbert on Wed 31st Mar 2010 08:38 in reply to "RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

"Write down a list of 10 applications which really scales better on [Solaris]. I think you couldn't because those are all inhouse developed applications what you never heard of."

A quick google found SAP. How about SAP? That is not an inhouse app, no? The Linux machine used faster CPUs, and faster RAM, and still was slower than Solaris on enterprise SAP benchmark, on 48 core machines. Linux scales well to 4 sockets or so. But above that, Linux has problems.
http://download.sap.com/download.epd?context=B1FEF26EB0CC34664FC7E8...

http://download.sap.com/download.epd?context=40E2D9D5E00EEF7CCDB058...


I think it says it all, when you claim you have no real experience of Solaris and still down talk it. It is really funny. Some Linux guy sits with his dual core at home and never has any problems, and therefore he concludes that Linux scales well? Jesus. It is a whole different thing to handle massive loads. Linux sucks on big loads, or trying to handle load on as few as 48 cores. Amateurs.
http://www.mattheaton.com/?p=222

Linux sucks as a file server says a Storage Expert
http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/sans/features/article.php/374...

http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/sans/features/article.php/374...



SEGEDUNUM
There are several Linux shops that switches to Solaris. If you didnt knew that, I am sorry for you.

"Linux does not scale well, so we switch to Solaris"
http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,s...

Linux overcommits RAM by default. That is horrendously bad. Linux allows you to use more RAM than the swap file allows. Then Linux will kill processes randomly. How good is that for stability?
http://opsmonkey.blogspot.com/2007/01/linux-memory-overcommit.html

And Linux unstable ABI, how good is that for stability? Upgrade something, and something else crashes. Soon you will have upgraded everything.

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