Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Mar 2010 12:59 UTC, submitted by NiceGuyEddie
Games The PlayStation 3 Slim already had an ability penalty of -35 Geekiness because of its lack of the "Install Other OS" option, and now the regular PlayStation 3 will follow in its footsteps. A PS3 firmware update, scheduled to land April 1, will disable this option on regular PS3s as well. This, dear readers, is what we in the business call a "testicle move", especially since only a few weeks ago, Sony bold-facedly claimed the feature would not be removed.
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umccullough
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2006-01-26

Hey, big organization using PS3 as cluster probably have some kind of special contract with Sony. I'm sure they don't use plain old Firmware like we do.


And you'd be wrong. The most appealing reason that PS3s are chosen for clusters is because they are cheaper than purchasing CellBE-based servers such as those made by IBM. This is largely due to Sony's subsidized console pricing, where for many years they were losing money on every console sale with the assumption that they would make it up in game licensing, etc.

PS3 clusters are built with standard retail machines. In order to purchase these directly from Sony with a special contract negotiation, it would actually cost more. At that point, you're better off using a CellBE blade server where you can access all the cores without any funny limitations, and get better power/performance ratios.

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truckweb Member since:
2005-07-06

And you'd be wrong. The most appealing reason that PS3s are chosen for clusters is because they are cheaper than purchasing CellBE-based servers such as those made by IBM. This is largely due to Sony's subsidized console pricing, where for many years they were losing money on every console sale with the assumption that they would make it up in game licensing, etc.

PS3 clusters are built with standard retail machines. In order to purchase these directly from Sony with a special contract negotiation, it would actually cost more. At that point, you're better off using a CellBE blade server where you can access all the cores without any funny limitations, and get better power/performance ratios.


There you go, maybe Sony is tired of loosing money to people running PS3 as Linux PC or in cluster and probably never buying a single game. Maybe those prople should invest in a CellBE Server, even if it cost more. I would define that as "improper" use of the PS3.

I do make a difference between Joe User who play with Linux once in a while on their PS3 and also play game.

But Cell developer, or enterprise users, who use the machine only for apps and number crunching, should buy a real CellBE Server.

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

There you go, maybe Sony is tired of loosing money to people running PS3 as Linux PC or in cluster and probably never buying a single game. Maybe those prople should invest in a CellBE Server, even if it cost more. I would define that as "improper" use of the PS3.


Right, which is probably part of the reason why they removed it from the Slims... but we're not talking about that. Think about it:

1) PS3 cluster users don't need to access PSN, so there's no reason for them to update to the new firmware.

2) There's no threat to Sony's bottom line for regular gamers who *might* use the PS3 for Linux, because they're still buying games.

So, why would Sony remove the feature for older consoles now? What would they gain?

I think they are indeed scared of some security concern. It wasn't long ago that someone (geohot) found a way to use the OtherOS functionality to gain access to the hypervisor. With that knowledge I'm sure more and more is being learned about the inner workings of the PS3, and ways to circumvent the copy-protection mechanism are being devised.

I think Sony is probably just attacking the problem the best way they know - lock down as many machines as they can now, and hope that it minimizes the damage later.

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