Linked by Kroc Camen on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:04 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Hot on the heals of Oracle's revamp of Solaris support, the licensing agreement for free downloads of Solaris 10 have changed. Here is the bit in question: "...Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software". So far the OpenSolaris license has not changed, it's still CDDL."
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RE: Does anybody care?
by galvanash on Mon 29th Mar 2010 22:24 UTC in reply to "Does anybody care?"
galvanash
Member since:
2006-01-25

Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.


The entire Open Source world is built upon the foundation of licensing, the GPL and almost all other open source licenses do not function without the notion of accepting software licensing as legally binding.

I would say the complete opposite is reality - no one really cares about silly attempts at restricting usage through stupid software tricks. The license is the only thing that matters.

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RE[2]: Does anybody care?
by darknexus on Tue 30th Mar 2010 01:15 in reply to "RE: Does anybody care?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I wasn't saying they shouldn't, just putting a reality check on the situation. The majority of people use what they wish to use without even looking at the license, and it's not as though people running a home server with Solaris 10 are going to not use it because Oracle says you must have a support contract. People *should* respect the license, but my question wasn't about what people should do but rather what they will do. I'm of the opinion that Oracle is just covering their butts. I doubt they're going to go after anyone who's using Solaris 10 without a contract, but this is their way of telling you that they will not support you nor will they even listen to your support questions. If they actively wanted to lock people away, they would've implemented something in the software side because, let's face it, that's primarily what stops a lot of people who don't even read a license. It's just their way of saying you're unsupported and completely on your own.

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RE[2]: Does anybody care?
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 30th Mar 2010 01:44 in reply to "RE: Does anybody care?"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

"Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.


The entire Open Source world is built upon the foundation of licensing, the GPL and almost all other open source licenses do not function without the notion of accepting software licensing as legally binding.

I would say the complete opposite is reality - no one really cares about silly attempts at restricting usage through stupid software tricks. The license is the only thing that matters.
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you dont seem to understand how software licenses works. FOSS licenses like GPL take effect at the point of distribution, not usage. EULAs are the ones that takes effect at the point of usage.

YOu are talking about EULAs if you are talking about restricting software usage

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RE[3]: Does anybody care?
by galvanash on Tue 30th Mar 2010 02:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Does anybody care?"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

you dont seem to understand how software licenses works. FOSS licenses like GPL take effect at the point of distribution, not usage. EULAs are the ones that takes effect at the point of usage.


And you are bringing up meaningless distinctions that have nothing to do with my point. People that care about OSS honor licenses. The intricacies of contract vs copyright law and all the legal mumbo-jumbo involved with it doesn't alter my point - I was simply stating that by Oracle merely saying out loud they don't want unregistered usage is enough to make it obvious to anyone that the regime change at Sun means Solaris and OpenSolaris are going to be parting ways.

That is significant. On the other hand, any attempts on their part to actually enforce those restrictions will be significant only to pirates. OSS != piracy.

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