Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Mar 2010 12:59 UTC, submitted by NiceGuyEddie
Games The PlayStation 3 Slim already had an ability penalty of -35 Geekiness because of its lack of the "Install Other OS" option, and now the regular PlayStation 3 will follow in its footsteps. A PS3 firmware update, scheduled to land April 1, will disable this option on regular PS3s as well. This, dear readers, is what we in the business call a "testicle move", especially since only a few weeks ago, Sony bold-facedly claimed the feature would not be removed.
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RE: Reasons
by Neolander on Tue 30th Mar 2010 09:32 UTC in reply to "Reasons"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

In reality, the content producers and game developers never liked the Other OS ability of the PS3.

Good start for a post : there is only one kind of content producer and game developer, they all know about this ability, and they all don't like it. Strange, I'm sure I met a PS3 dev who advertised it because it's a powerful Cell linux machine at a low price AND a good gaming machine... Guess he was a pirate. Sony should be more careful about who gets licence to develop on the PS3, those freaking pirates are really everywhere.

They were concerned that it would lead to the ability to pirate content.

Then they are incredibly stupid. Come on, do they think their game is so crappy that they fear people would run linux games instead ? PS3 emulation on the PS3 ? Or copy paste of data from the HDD (if no encryption is used, people might as well take said hdd out of the console and plug it in their pc) ?

Sony were also concerned, but liked the positive PR of having its consoles used in computing clusters; "The PS3 is a supercomputer!".

If they were that concerned, why did they advertise that capability or introduced it in the first place ?

Now that the Other OS feature has been used as the beginnings of an attempt to pirate games,

Oh, our friends the pirates are coming... Isn't there an equivalent of Godwin point for use of the "piracy" word in order to justify the worst ? There should, really.

developers have been threatening not to release PS3-exclusive games, and media partners have been talking about leaving Sony's various media platforms (not just the PS3; their other devices will have streaming content too).

Oh, again, the almighty dev... Don't you think you put a bit too much power in the hand of people whose sole job is to write high-level code ? Media partner is more correct : it's because of editors and publishers LIKE SONY that we get starforce-like b*****t in the first place.

Sony had a choice: Piss off their game developers and put their future gadgetry plans in jeopardy, or remove the Other OS feature from their PS3s.

Exageration in order to make the choice look binary and the first option look like sh*t. Generalisation of the "game developer" concept so that it fits your argumentative needs... Looks like an ad from sony, not like a serious reflexion. Do you work for them ?

So, understandably, they did the latter.

You'd better put a sony copyright notice here. Otherwise, the evil game devs from the deep might sue you because of copyright infrigement.

I'm sure we'll still see Yellow Dog Linux on the PS3 through a licensed bootloader/installer disc,

Okay. This would be some kind of china-approved distro where you could do anything that pleases sony, but nothing else. Basically, this means typing some LOC in a shell, since you are unable to access graphics capabilities and a large part of RAM, and soon unable to access HDD and network once some marketting people from sony realize that you could use them to buy DVDs from Amazon instead of DRM-encumbered content from them.

but unfortunately for other distros you'll just have to blame the pirates. The Other OS feature would have continued in the older PS3s had it not been for the efforts of the pirates.

Ah, pirates ! I missed them. They are responsible from everything you know ? RROD appear when there's pirates around the Xbox. Sonicstage caused loss of data because pirates tried to bypass it. And the iPhone does not really delete messages because there was a pirate around when its OS was developped. Do you really believe Sony (or any other brand) lost a lot of money because some bearded geeks ran Linux on crippled hardware ?

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RE[2]: Reasons
by 3rdalbum on Tue 30th Mar 2010 10:19 in reply to "RE: Reasons"
3rdalbum Member since:
2008-05-26

Whoa... do you want to calm down before you type, next time?

Sony wanted Other OS; it's a good marketing point to say that the processing power of your console is so high that universities are using it as part of a supercomputing cluster. However, games developers (no, not 100% of them of course!) and "content producers" don't want it to be easy to run unauthorised code on the PS3 - it makes it easier in theory to find security flaws that will allow for copied games to be played.

And, well, that's what happened anyway; so in the end the objectors were right. The marketing angle for Other OS had run its course anyway so it wasn't any skin off Sony's nose to get rid of it, and the alternative (losing out on exclusive titles to the 360, not having "content producers" on board for other Sony gadgets) was much worse.

I don't work for Sony, but I know people who do.

I refuse to reply to the other things you've said, because they're mostly incoherent.

Lurk Moar.

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RE[2]: Reasons
by boldingd on Tue 30th Mar 2010 20:02 in reply to "RE: Reasons"
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2009-02-19

It seems like you don't know, so, just to clarify: Yellow Dog is an old Linux distro, I think based on Red Hat (but I'm not sure). It was notable for being targeted at the PPC platform. Since the Cell is more-or-less-kinda-like the PPC platform, what he's saying is, "if Sony wants to throw their customers a bone, if people get really bent-out-of-shape over all this, they might work with Yellow Dog to provide a Sony-blessed way to still get a Linux distro onto the console, without a general OtherOS feature." Which means something, since Yellow Dog is a pre-existing (in fact, fairly old), third party, not-locked-down Distro.

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