Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Apr 2010 13:10 UTC
Linux We all know Synaptics, the company that seems to produce just about every touchpad you can get your hands fingers on. Their touchpads also do a lot of multitouch and gesture stuff, but up until now, their set of gestures, the Synaptics Gesture Suite, was only available on Windows. Luckily, they've ported it over to Linux, and made it available for OEMs building Linux laptops.
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RE[5]: Comment by spinnekopje
by Laurence on Tue 20th Apr 2010 15:03 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by spinnekopje"
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

I'm sorry, you're still failing the see the fundamental and significant difference between having to download a few EXEs and install them, and having to tweak config files, apply patches, download experimental versions of software and potentially still not getting your hardware to work. If you can't see the difference, then no wonder Linux is failing on the desktop.

I'm sorry, downloading EXEs and installing them is not "hacking around".


Right, I can see we're going round in circles now so I'm only going to say this one last time:

1/ I never stated that downloading an EXE in Windows is "hacking around".

2/ 4 out of 5 systems I build I don't have to tweak config files, run experimental versions of software or apply patches to get my hardware working. 99% of the time my hardware works 1st time in Linux. No mess, no nothing. 99% of the time Linux works "out of the box". 99% of the time, Linux "just works". 99% of the time I install the OS, reboot once, then I have a *FULLY* functional OS. ie 99% of the time your argument is WRONG.

I hope that clears up some confusion. ;)

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RE[6]: Comment by spinnekopje
by AirIntake on Tue 20th Apr 2010 17:07 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by spinnekopje"
AirIntake Member since:
2009-10-29

Where did you get this 99% value? A good 30% of people own an ATI card, and I can guarantee you that ATI cards do not 'just work' in Linux. Intel cards are hit and miss too. Linux also has huge issues with HDMI audio.

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RE[7]: Comment by spinnekopje
by Laurence on Wed 21st Apr 2010 07:00 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by spinnekopje"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Where did you get this 99% value? A good 30% of people own an ATI card, and I can guarantee you that ATI cards do not 'just work' in Linux.

All of mine have. Maybe I've just been lucky(?) but I've honestly managed to get all of my ATI cards working with default installs (minus one laptop where ASUS had resigned the hardware so even generic Windows ATI drivers wouldn't install - only the ASUS OEM drivers worked. However even that got picked up correctly in ArchLinux and OpenSUSE despite failing in countless other distros).


Intel cards are hit and miss too. Linux also has huge issues with HDMI audio.

I've only used Intel graphics once (in Xubuntu) and that worked first time - so I've obviously been lucky there too.
Not used HDMI audio (yet) but I can quite believe that to be a pain as doing anything beyond normal desktop usage in sound is a pain in Linux.

However most desktops don't use HDMI audio and seeming as I've been reminded to stay relevant to normal desktop installs (after someone took offence to the list of hardware that Linux supports that neither OS X nor Windows does), I don't see HDMI audio as a significant argument against "desktop Linux". ;)

Seriously though - I do agree that Linux's sound architecture is a complete mess! While it's "good enough" for desktops, I personally see it as being at least 10 years behind Windows and Mac for any serious usage (whether that be HDMI or music production).
In fact, the only reason I keep a copy of Windows is for DJing and writing music. Everything else I do, I do from within Linux - at least on the desktop and digital studio space. The array of servers I host / maintain are a whole other topic.

So in summery (for those that TL;DR): Yeah, Linux has it's faults, but to say it's not "desktop ready" is simply wrong

Edited 2010-04-21 07:07 UTC

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