Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Apr 2010 16:59 UTC
Editorial Holier-than-thou, an adjective, meaning "marked by an air of superior piety or morality". Everybody has moments in their life where they get into a "holier-than-thou" attitude, and I think Steve Jobs' open letter regarding Adobe, and Flash in particular, really fits the bill. There are three specific points I want to address to illustrate just how holier-than-thou, hypocritical, and misleading this letter really is.
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RE[3]: Comment by DrillSgt
by REM2000 on Thu 29th Apr 2010 18:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by DrillSgt"
REM2000
Member since:
2006-07-25

The Mac version is 32bit aswell, this topic has been raised again and again. 64bit will not really make iTunes run any faster, it's not using over 2GB per process in windows, my itunes hovers around 200MB on my Mac. There won't be any benefits from the registers on a 64bit processor, so i don't know what 64bit will bring to the table both for windows and mac.

iTunes is slow because it does too much, they should have broken iTunes down into more separate apps, perhaps that would speed it up. Music, video etc. with a iphone/iphone sync app that plugs into them all, as itunes currently does with iPhoto.

64bit iTunes in windows just provides the drivers for burning a CD.

As for the topic of hypocrisy, i think apple are quite open with some of their tech, such as CUPS, webkit etc. Of course they could be more open but it's not going to happen. As for the platform as a whole, to have the mac experience you lose certain choices, the same way you do if you use windows instead of Linux.

Throughout this war ive been on the side of apple, HTML5 videos in youtube run with little cpu power (10% if that), flash videos run at about 70% on the mac. I think HTML5 is the way to go, it's a lot more open than Flash, its not perfect by any means as the codec powering some of the content is up for debate, but at least HTML5 gives us that choice.

The platform might be closed on a mac, but their interaction with other computers is very open, webkit browser, using samba for sharing to other SMB network, cups drivers, VNC remote access etc..

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RE[4]: Comment by DrillSgt
by supergear on Thu 29th Apr 2010 18:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by DrillSgt"
supergear Member since:
2007-07-06

I don't see how h264 is more open than flash. I think they both suck but atleast Adobe won't sue you if you happen to watch an unlicensed video

Edited 2010-04-29 18:10 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by DrillSgt
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 29th Apr 2010 21:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by DrillSgt"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't see how h264 is more open than flash. I think they both suck but atleast Adobe won't sue you if you happen to watch an unlicensed video


And the funny thing is that encouraging the use of H.264 has the unintended consequence of encouraging the continued use of Flash. Since Flash supports H.264, any site that uses H.264 files in HTML5 <video> tags will probably also offer the same video through Flash (since that's the easiest way to provide the same video to XP and Vista users).

If Apple truly wanted to "save" the web from the evils of Flash, then throwing support behind H.264 is self-defeating (at least in the short-term).

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RE[4]: Comment by DrillSgt
by clhodapp on Thu 29th Apr 2010 18:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by DrillSgt"
clhodapp Member since:
2009-12-04

I think it is important to note that when Apple bought CUPS, it was already GPL'ed, so if they had not shared it, there would have been outrage followed by a fork. Also, they forked Webkit from KHTML, making it a derivative work of LGPL'ed code, so they have to be open with that as well. I would say that Apple's stance on open standards is this: they are willing to use open standards/code when it is convenient for them, and are not evil about it when they do. The problem that we have is that it is they are not above being evil about other things.

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RE[5]: Comment by DrillSgt
by whorider on Thu 29th Apr 2010 19:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by DrillSgt"
whorider Member since:
2009-03-20

Excellent point.

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RE[5]: Comment by DrillSgt
by apoclypse on Thu 29th Apr 2010 20:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by DrillSgt"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I see your point but its irrelevant. Apple could of just wrote their own or licensed a proprietary solution, the same goes for webkit. They decided to go with more open solutions and have been heavy contributors to the OSS world eventhough they have the capital and technical staff to roll their own stuff if they wanted to. Saying that the projects were GPL before or BSD doesn't mean anything, it just means that they chose open solutions to build upon.

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