Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd May 2010 22:04 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Remember how Mark Shuttleworth justified moving the window titlebar widgets to the left by claiming the space freed up on the right side could now be used for something else? On his blog, Shuttleworth unveiled what, exactly, Ubuntu's plans are: window indicators, or 'windicators'. In a nutshell, it comes down to having a tray area in every window.
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RE[2]: Pure Awesome
by WereCatf on Tue 4th May 2010 05:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Pure Awesome"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

If the application already includes a volume control, why would you want another one stuffed into the top-right corner

The application's own volume control could then be removed. POOF, problem gone.

If you go to the top-right for volume ... why not just use the global volume control?

Seriously, this is a stupid question: you've never wanted to adjust the volume your music plays at while still having all your other audio sources play at the same volume as before?

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RE[3]: Pure Awesome
by phoenix on Tue 4th May 2010 14:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Pure Awesome"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

If you go to the top-right for volume ... why not just use the global volume control?

Seriously, this is a stupid question: you've never wanted to adjust the volume your music plays at while still having all your other audio sources play at the same volume as before?


Ah, but doesn't the global volume mixer include support for each application, thus negating the need for the windicator?

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RE[4]: Pure Awesome
by darknexus on Tue 4th May 2010 14:57 in reply to "RE[3]: Pure Awesome"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Ah, but doesn't the global volume mixer include support for each application, thus negating the need for the windicator?

It does, in a similar way as Vista. You pop up the sound preferences tab and adjust it there, it's not in the icon. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with that, but shuttleman seems to be going out on a limb to design something for the sake of designing it rather than its actual usefulness.

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RE[3]: Pure Awesome
by segedunum on Tue 4th May 2010 17:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Pure Awesome"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

The application's own volume control could then be removed. POOF, problem gone.

Why? All you're doing is moving the volume control to a new non-standard place that will fill up with yet more crap.

Seriously, this is a stupid question: you've never wanted to adjust the volume your music plays at while still having all your other audio sources play at the same volume as before?

No. It's a nice thing to have when you're at a fixed workstation where you are comfortable where all your volume levels should be at, but if you're on a laptop where you interchange between headphones or even worse, speakers in an office, it's asking for trouble. It's a nice-to-have thing, but a niche thing at that.

The single biggest gotcha with sound not working is either that the volume is too low or that sound is muted. Now extrapolate that problem to multiple applications. Think about it.

Edited 2010-05-04 17:56 UTC

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RE[4]: Pure Awesome
by WereCatf on Tue 4th May 2010 20:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Pure Awesome"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Why? All you're doing is moving the volume control to a new non-standard place that will fill up with yet more crap.

It is already in a non-standard place. And every single application has their own volume slider thingie.

The single biggest gotcha with sound not working is either that the volume is too low or that sound is muted. Now extrapolate that problem to multiple applications. Think about it.

If that's a problem then it already exists.

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