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Hardware, Embedded Systems In 2009 ARM showed off prototype netbooks "capable of driving HD content, can surf the web for 8 hours, and will cost round and about 250 USD". Yet still, none have made it to the market. Why do you think this is so? Because ARM signed a deal with Adobe in 2008 to bring Flash and AIR to the ARM architecture, a promise they will finally deliver later this year. And you wonder why Apple won't have Flash on the iPhone when it can hold back an entire product category for two years.
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RE[4]: RiscOS no no no no
by bhtooefr on Thu 6th May 2010 10:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: RiscOS no no no no"
bhtooefr
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2009-02-19

There's also a niche market of elderly people that don't know anything other than RISC OS, and are using either circa-1997 233 MHz StrongARM RiscPCs, circa-2000 233 or 300 MHz Kinetic (RAM local to the CPU card) StrongARM RiscPCs, circa-2002 600 MHz XScale-based Iyonixes, and circa-2004 400 MHz ARM9-based A9homes with a beta OS.

Those users, that's all they know how to use, and that's all they'll use until they die. They'll buy new hardware if it's cheap enough, but only if it can run RISC OS. For that matter, a couple companies have sold x86 PCs running Virtual RiscPC, which... isn't very good, and has nasty, buggy DRM.

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RE[5]: RiscOS no no no no
by jabjoe on Thu 6th May 2010 10:33 in reply to "RE[4]: RiscOS no no no no"
jabjoe Member since:
2009-05-06

Exactly how small is this niche? I can't see it's more than a few hundred at most. A better solution to help them would be a effort on Rox and RpcEmu. It's not good to be tied to any chip type, even ARM. That's if it's worth getting new machine for them, not like there is new RiscOS software... But honestly, moving OS isn't that big a deal, even if the machine is dead, Linux can actually mount ADFS. For many old Acorn app, bet there is something to convert the files. Like Draw to Inkscape sort of thing. A better business is help emigrate these old RiscOS users left behind to the new lands we all enjoy. Let RiscOS lie in peace.

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RE[6]: RiscOS no no no no
by bhtooefr on Thu 6th May 2010 10:45 in reply to "RE[5]: RiscOS no no no no"
bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

The problem is... you know the kind of users that use Windows 98 and a Celeron 333 from 1998, today, because it works for them, although they might want something faster, but can't figure out that newfangled Windows XP?

That's probably half of the active RISC OS users. And I'm not joking. We're talking about users that are so inflexible to learning new things, that they are completely unable to use anything that isn't RISC OS.

And, the PC-based solutions, right now, are booting a full Windows, and then booting RISC OS. If something goes tits up on the Windows side, they're completely lost.

The other half of the users are doing it for fun or for profit (and get into terrible flamewars with each other quite often, because the ones doing it for profit are ruining the platform,) and are your typical retrocomputing community, that completely failed to learn from the Amiga community.

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RE[5]: RiscOS no no no no
by henderson101 on Thu 6th May 2010 10:55 in reply to "RE[4]: RiscOS no no no no"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

There's also a niche market of elderly people that don't know anything other than RISC OS.


That is PURE fantasy. It's a little like the response often heard when the 17th century Cornish man was questioned in English - "Me na vadna cowz a Sowznack". Which, at the time, was thought to translate as "I can't speak English", but actually meant "I _will not_ speak English".

Anyone still using RISCOS as a primary OS is doing so because they want to, not because they have to.

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RE[6]: RiscOS no no no no
by bhtooefr on Thu 6th May 2010 11:11 in reply to "RE[5]: RiscOS no no no no"
bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

I was very careful to NOT say that all they could use was RISC OS, although I see I did say that there's a demographic that can't figure out XP. (Although, there are a couple users here and there on the comp.sys.acorn newsgroups that stick with RISC OS because of certain programs that they like, that are unavailable on other platforms.)

I'm well aware that they COULD use other platforms, and just don't want to. That's my point, that they don't want to. RISC OS works for them, so why switch?

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