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Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Dear Ubuntu, for the last couple years life has been good. Every time I've shown you to a friend or family member, they've compared you to what they're familiar with--Windows XP or Vista, mostly--and by comparison you've looked brilliant. Yeah, your ugly brown color scheme was a bit off-putting at first, but once people saw how secure, simple, and reliable you were, the response was almost universally positive. But recently, things have changed ..."
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Worthless
by antenna on Sun 9th May 2010 12:53 UTC
antenna
Member since:
2006-10-22

I'll just state that this news article will provide no worthwhile commentary or points. This site can do better I think.

Edited 2010-05-09 13:00 UTC

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RE: Worthless
by Kroc on Sun 9th May 2010 13:03 in reply to "Worthless"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Do you have something else you would suggest then?

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RE[2]: Worthless
by abstraction on Sun 9th May 2010 20:01 in reply to "RE: Worthless"
abstraction Member since:
2008-11-27

I feel there has been alot of critizism lately towards OSNews and I just want to say that even though I personally can sound harsh I still appreciate all the time you and the rest of OSNews spend to bring us these articles.

Even though this article wasnt one of the better ones this normally isnt the case. It was a good try, it didnt work, lets leave it there. I rather read crappy articles than nothing at all.

Feel free to thank OSNews for their great work. I think they need to here it from time to time.

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RE[2]: Worthless
by thebluesgnr on Sun 9th May 2010 21:47 in reply to "RE: Worthless"
thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

The premise of this article is that Windows 7 is a perfect OS for everyone and therefore Ubuntu doesn't matter.

I personally find that a little ridiculous.

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RE: Worthless
by OSNevvs on Sun 9th May 2010 13:39 in reply to "Worthless"
OSNevvs Member since:
2009-08-20

Same feeling here. I think Ubuntu Lucid Lynx is very good. It's as good as W7, and you could even add that it's more secure. How is W7 better, to begin with? Also, is W7 really better than Vista? When I upgraded from Vista to W7, I didn't see any difference beside the task bar and the new wallpaper...

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RE[2]: Worthless
by Lennie on Sun 9th May 2010 13:54 in reply to "RE: Worthless"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I guess the only real improvement in Windows 7 is performance. Compatibility is also better then when Vista came out, but that's just because everything that wasn't compatible slowly became Vista compatible and automatically Windows 7 compatible as well.

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RE[2]: Worthless
by Morgan on Sun 9th May 2010 14:31 in reply to "RE: Worthless"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Same feeling here. I think Ubuntu Lucid Lynx is very good. It's as good as W7, and you could even add that it's more secure.


I would tend to agree with you here; as great as Windows 7 was in my nearly 10 months evaluating it, Ubuntu is still a better fit for me. Granted, if I bought a new computer with 7 pre-installed I wouldn't remove it, but I don't foresee me buying a copy of 7.

How is W7 better, to begin with? Also, is W7 really better than Vista? When I upgraded from Vista to W7, I didn't see any difference beside the task bar and the new wallpaper...


I can't speak for everyone, but I've noticed major differences between the two, mostly under the hood. Remember, the UI is only a small fraction of a modern OS. On my test computer, Vista was dog-slow and had some stability issues. This was with SP1. With the Windows 7 Beta and RC, my system was much faster and more stable. The only issues I had with 7 was an incomplete bluetooth stack and driver support for a 10-year-old MP3 player. Even XP had issues with that device.

Another example: A family member bought a top-of-the-line computer with Vista a couple of years ago. The specs of the machine were amazing for the time, and still competitive today, but she was constantly frustrated with the slowness and instability of Vista. Once 7 was released to retail, I suggested she give it a try. Another family member bought her the copy and I installed and tweaked it to her preferences. She was absolutely floored by the difference; she now has a pleasant experience every time she uses her computer, as opposed to the constant frustration under Vista.

Again, I wouldn't run 7 as a main OS unless my computer came with it preinstalled, and even then I'd run Ubuntu and Haiku side-by-side with it. But it's only the second version of Windows I can faithfully say I really like (Win2K being the other one). Microsoft finally got it right, in my eyes.

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RE: Worthless
by pjafrombbay on Mon 10th May 2010 04:24 in reply to "Worthless"
pjafrombbay Member since:
2005-07-31

I'll just state that this news article will provide no worthwhile commentary or points. This site can do better I think.


I will start by saying that I am a passionate believer in what Linux and Ubuntu in particular are trying to do. However, I have not tried a version of Ubuntu since 6.something that was close to replacing Windows XP for a general use desktop type PC. There are always problems with printer drivers, I even went and bought a new printer (Samsung) that was supposed to have good Linux support at one point and still have problems. 10.whatever it called simply WILL NOT BOOT from the (from any) Live CD - the reason! The Toshiba laptop has an Intel graphics chip!

I can see the potential but its a very long way from being delivered.

Operating systems, after all are a commodity NOT an end in themselves.

I suppose I will keep trying new versions hoping they get it right one day, because I really do believe in the goal. But in the meantime we need to preserve some objectivity.

Regards,
Peter

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RE[2]: Worthless
by AirIntake on Mon 10th May 2010 17:29 in reply to "RE: Worthless"
AirIntake Member since:
2009-10-29

I don't know which Intel chip you have, but my old desktop has an Intel 82865G graphics chip, and 10.04 works just fine with it out of the box, including Compiz Fusion effects.

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