Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th May 2010 21:10 UTC, submitted by asupcb
OSNews, Generic OSes EyeOS has released version 2.0 Beta. "After several months of hard work we're happy to announce the immediate availability of the official release of eyeOS 2.0 Beta. And even more: the new release doesn't come alone but with the brand new eyeOS.org website, which has not ben redesigned for the last 2 years now. eyeOS 2.0 Beta can be downloaded from the new downloads page and tested from a Beta test server in eyeOS.info."
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Sabon
Member since:
2005-07-06

Wow, you've really taken this issue to heart. I really don't mean this to be a flamewar or to seem like a personal attack - I just can't class graphical shell as an entire OS. So let me address some of your points:

The interface IS the OS! Take a course! please!


You'd better inform teh KDE team that their flagship product is an operating system and not just a Desktop Envronment then.

Hmmm - Then Windows is not an OS because it is just a layer on top of what boots up the computer. Yes, technically you CAN boot up Windows without the GUI which means that Windows is not an OS.

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Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh. And neither is Mac OS X (it's BSD underneath).

Yes. I'm being sarcastic.

Edited 2010-05-26 14:57 UTC

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Oh. And neither is Mac OS X (it's BSD underneath).

Yes. I'm being sarcastic.

No, you're being confused.

OS X's kernel (which is what you're referring to) is Darwin - a unique kernel designed for OS X.
Darwin is Mach based, not BSD. There is BSD code in Darwin, but that doesn't make Darwin an out and out BSD kernel.

Furthermore, OS X is a product name (not an individual software component) which includes:
* Darwin (the aforementioned kernel),
* Aqua (OS X's user interface),
* Cocoa (which is OS X APIs and widgets),
* and numerous other tools (eg CLI shells), applications (eg Safari) and so forth.

Each on their own is not an OS, but OS X as a product /IS/ an operating system.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Hmmm - Then Windows is not an OS because it is just a layer on top of what boots up the computer. Yes, technically you CAN boot up Windows without the GUI which means that Windows is not an OS.

*sign* I've already addressed this point in the very post you were addressing, but let me reiterate:

Windows is the product name.
EXPLORER.EXE is Windows' shell
NT is Windows' kernel.

So yes, you can boot Windows without EXPLORER.EXE and no, EXPLORER.EXE is not an OS (though it's part of the Windows OS).

Also, to further complicate matters, there are GUI parts in the NT kernel. So you can't entirely separate the GUI entirely from NT - though you can change the desktop, file manager and other shell components as well as the themes and stylings (as explained several times above).


So to summarise, Windows /IS/ an OS. NT is the kernel layer of Windows and EXPLORER.EXE is the shell part of Windows. Neither is an OS on it's own, but both are parts of the OS product.

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