Linked by Kroc Camen on Sat 29th May 2010 20:41 UTC
Apple I've been meaning to write this for some time, and for all the time I delayed the more poignant the point I wanted to make started to become as new news came out further solidifying my angle. When I begun writing this article the iPad had not yet been revealed, iPhone OS 4 was not on the map and Apple had not yet purchased Lala. You've probably just noticed that all of these events in fact point toward Apple embracing the web more and in this article I will point out why this is not the case because I believe Apple's agenda here is similar to something we've already seen in recent history.
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Right and wrong
by Eddyspeeder on Sun 30th May 2010 12:15 UTC
Eddyspeeder
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2006-05-10

The timing of this article is impeccable. We are on the verge of Apple outgrowing Microsoft, also in terms of monopoly. Antitrust scrutiny for Apple is readily under way and their motives and behaviors are questioned.

Apple cannot embrace the Web, no more nor less than you and I cannot embrace a Cloud.

Safari will not be the next IE6 (*) (**). The world is different now. Apple's mobile devices will never reach a 99% market salience. As a Mac user myself (who doesn't care for an iPhone, iPod or iPad), I am not tempted to use Safari on my Mac. It doesn't come close to the perfect trackpad integration of Firefox and it is far from the performance Chromium has.

My point of view is that iTunes has become so big because record companies were sluggish and stared themselves blind on killing Napster rather than providing a proper alternative. Apple realized the potential of a paid and structured Napster. That's where they come in. Blame the major labels (for that and for many other things).

(*) - I am not saying that Safari does not risk getting stuck at a certain level. Just like Microsoft, Apple is prone to letting certain applications become a total mess, such as QuickTime Classic, MacOS Classic, and the Windows port of iTunes which ought to be called iTunes Classic for consistency's sake.

(**) - I will hand this over to you though; IE was more cross-platform and versatile than Safari is, considering IE was available for the Mac until Apple released Safari.

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RE: Right and wrong
by Kroc on Sun 30th May 2010 12:27 in reply to "Right and wrong"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I do not wish to confuse people in believing that Safari will reach 99% usage, it won’t. That’s a flaw in the article if that’s not clear enough. But I do feel that Safari on the iPhone and iPad can and will veto the direction the web wants to take and that the iPad (and what comes next) will get a large marketshare (like 25-30%) such that ignoring it is being at a loss (like ignoring Firefox support on websites now is suicide).

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RE[2]: Right and wrong
by Eddyspeeder on Sun 30th May 2010 14:33 in reply to "RE: Right and wrong"
Eddyspeeder Member since:
2006-05-10

I merely used it to point out that not all factors are there for Safari to dictate where the internet goes. The main point of your article is definitely taken (and this article was definitely a good call). As someone else already pointed out, it should strike one as odd that Microsoft must present a browser ballot while Apple works increasingly towards singling out Safari.

Unless Apple is considering new uses for the iPad (i.e. live streaming using the webcam which probably will be in v2.0), iPad internet usage is largely going be about (newspapers, emails, blogs) and videos, and doesn't cause the internet to make changes to support it.

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RE: Right and wrong
by daveak on Sun 30th May 2010 12:29 in reply to "Right and wrong"
daveak Member since:
2008-12-29

Except Safari is webkit, the engine is cross platform. IE for the Mac was not the same engine as IE under windows so they were two completely different browsers.

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RE[2]: Right and wrong
by Eddyspeeder on Sun 30th May 2010 14:36 in reply to "RE: Right and wrong"
Eddyspeeder Member since:
2006-05-10

Oh I remember very well that IE for Mac required me to apply several hacks to some of my websites, or it wouldn't parse the way it should (but that problem also consistently occurred with IE on Windows). I was actually reminded of that when reading Kroc's point on having to apply several hacks to get his site properly working in browsers whilst sticking to HTML5.

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