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GNU, GPL, Open Source The HURD was meant to be the true kernel at the heart of the GNU operating system. The promise behind the HURD was revolutionary -- a set of daemons on top of a microkernel that was intended to surpass the performance of the monolithic kernels of traditional Unix systems and in doing so, give greater security, freedom and flexibility to the users -- but it has yet to come down to earth.
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RE[3]: Reason Linux lives:
by phoenix on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 23:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Reason Linux lives:"
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

"Red Hat could just as easily sell RedBSD.

RedBSD is based on FreeBSD. RedHat can not sell FreeBSD as I wrote, earlier.
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Where do you get the idea that "no one can sell FreeBSD"??

Anyone can sell FreeBSD. No questions asked. In fact, many people do sell it:
* FreeBSD Mall sells FreeBSD CDs and DVDs
* Juniper sells routers with FreeBSD inside
* PC-BSD is built on top of FreeBSD, but it's still vanilla FreeBSD underneath
* Walnut Creek used to sell FreeBSD CDs
* iX Systems sells laptops, desktops, and servers with FreeBSD pre-installed, along with support for FreeBSD

There are many many more, those are just those I can think of without resorting to google.

Anyone can download the sources for FreeBSD, stick it on a CD, and sell that CD to anyone else. It's perfectly legal, so long as you leave all the copyright and license notices intact.

You can also download the sources, compile them, stick the binaries on a CD, and sell that CD.

You can also stick the sources/binaries into specific pieces of hardware, and sell those.

It's all allowed by the BSD license.

That is my point. Someone else spends R&D on Linux, and you just grab it and repackage it and sell it. Splendid business idea. Let someone else develop it, and because it is free, you can grab it and sell it. It is like Klondyke. Just grab it and sell it. Noone will stop you.


This is the same for *ALL* open-source software. So long as the license allows it, you can do whatever you want with the source (and binaries usually), including selling it, or founding a business around it. This is not something restricted to or unique about the Linux kernel sources.

Noone would buy another FreeBSD distro or OpenSolaris distro - there are official distros. Why buy a copy, instead of the original?


Tell that to all the people using FreeNAS, PC-BSD, pfSense (all "distros" of FreeBSD), or all the embedded developers using picoBSD, nanoBSD, microBSD (variations on FreeBSD) or all those people/businesses using Nexenta / NexentaStore (a "distro" of OpenSolaris).

These are all projects that are fairly popular, going strong, and even making money for people. And none of them are based on Linux.

Edited 2010-07-02 23:44 UTC

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RE[4]: Reason Linux lives:
by Kebabbert on Sat 3rd Jul 2010 08:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Reason Linux lives:"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

Tell that to all the people using FreeNAS, PC-BSD, pfSense (all "distros" of FreeBSD), or all the embedded developers using picoBSD, nanoBSD, microBSD (variations on FreeBSD) or all those people/businesses using Nexenta / NexentaStore (a "distro" of OpenSolaris).

These are all projects that are fairly popular, going strong, and even making money for people. And none of them are based on Linux.

So you are saying that you can fork off the code, and close the source and dont give back anything to the community? And further develop on this code and sell your product? It is true?

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RE[5]: Reason Linux lives:
by phoenix on Sat 3rd Jul 2010 18:03 in reply to "RE[4]: Reason Linux lives:"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

100% true. It's one of the benefits (or downsides, depending on your point of view) to the BSD license. So long as you keep the copyright and license notices intact, you can do whatever you want with the source.

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