Linked by David Adams on Tue 13th Jul 2010 17:02 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Following up on the news a couple of weeks ago that Microsoft had killed the Kin, its first Windows Phone 7 device, after only a month on the market, we found a list of ten gadgets that, despite their promise, didn't make it in the marketplace. Some of these devices, such as the Modo, laid the groundwork for blockbuster products (iPod). Some, like the Audrey, developed a cult following once their failure made them affordable on eBay. Others just flat out failed (DataPlay). Are there any short-lived gadgets that didn't make the list? What about the CueCat?
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henderson101
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2006-05-30

However, had BeIA be more along the line of what we now know as "netbook", its fate (and that of Be) might have been quite different.


BeIA was BeOS under the hood, By that I mean, you could quit the custom version of Opera 4 (aka Wagner) and it would boot to Tracker. It was fairly crippled for other reasons, but it *was* BeOS on a 32MB card (IIRC 32MB was the max image size the tools could create.)

Interestingly, BeIA being flash memory based (16 or 32 MB) could have been the "instant-on" internet gateway to the remote human interaction channels (e-mail, blog, FaceBook, Twitter)


I believe that was the ongoing "plan". However, BeIA was far from instant on. It took around a minute to boot from CF (I only ever had a unit with Compact Flash and a rig that booted from an IDE drive.) Caveat: Most of the versions I saw were BeIA 1.0 or prior, so 2.0 might have been better.

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

My old Dell laptop booted BeOS off a CF card in about 20+ seconds. Writes were slow with CF, and BeOS did write info out as it booted.

Haiku on the same card/laptop took about 15 seconds. I think it had better buffering.

It is important to note that CF comes in different speeds, the cheaper the card the slower the card. Most cards out there are 80x but I bought a 133x 8GB card, and only did not buy a 266x card because I could only afford the 4GB version.

Of-course not counting BIOS setup time Haiku boots in 10 seconds or less on my Intel SSD.

The base hardware matters as much as the software.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

It is important to note that CF comes in different speeds, the cheaper the card the slower the card.


I think that is a slight understatement. CF only really became "speedy" well after BeOS had died. Back in the BeIA days, 8MB and 16MB cards were the norm and the speed of the card was s..l...o....w. But then again, generally is was faster than the DOC that was used in other devices at the time!

Also remember, the devices we were using were pre release engineering samples that were basically not production quality. I personally coded for a Dt300 web pad, and it was okay, but it had a 200Mhz Pentium clone processor (made by Nat Semi iirc.) and something like 256MB RAM. So the speed of CF, the fact it was booting from a compressed file system, the fact it had basically a slow processor and no RAM and more or less VGA level graphics, really didn't win it much speed.

My Webpad is long gone, but I do still have the SDK and device images. However, last time I attempted to boot BeIA it crashed and burned, which is really sad :-(

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