Linked by gsyoungblood on Tue 20th Jul 2010 18:01 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless On July 15th the latest Android super-phone was released by Motorola and Verizon Wireless. All hail the Droid X. The release was not without controversy though. The Droid X, while greatly raising the bar for Android phones in general, does so at the expense of the very power users and community that made the original Droid the gotta-have phone it became. Alienating this group may have far reaching consequences for Motorola.
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RE[2]: good thing
by Dryhte on Wed 21st Jul 2010 08:06 UTC in reply to "RE: good thing"
Dryhte
Member since:
2008-02-05

The vast majority of end users don't load custom ROM's on their phones, they stick with the status quo and receive updates from their carrier.


or don't receive them (like me and my trusty 'old' Samsung i7500 Galaxy).

If I couldn't install custom, unapproved roms on there I'd still be stuck with Android 1.5. A lot of the viability of Motorola's model (and the happiness of their users) hinges on their ability to keep supporting their devices through a couple of Android version updates. If I'd have a Droid X and they'd keep updating it with high quality recent firmwares, I'd not be too worried about the inability to apply custom roms; however, if they'd leave me in the cold as Samsung has, while also unable to apply my own choice of firmwares, that would surely have been my very last Motorola phone ever.

Still, I can't see why it'd be so hard for them to allow users to opt out of warranty and killswitch with a big red 'void warranty' button (preferably irreversible). I'd like to know that I have a choice in the matter.

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RE[3]: good thing
by kaiwai on Wed 21st Jul 2010 09:01 in reply to "RE[2]: good thing"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

or don't receive them (like me and my trusty 'old' Samsung i7500 Galaxy).

If I couldn't install custom, unapproved roms on there I'd still be stuck with Android 1.5. A lot of the viability of Motorola's model (and the happiness of their users) hinges on their ability to keep supporting their devices through a couple of Android version updates. If I'd have a Droid X and they'd keep updating it with high quality recent firmwares, I'd not be too worried about the inability to apply custom roms; however, if they'd leave me in the cold as Samsung has, while also unable to apply my own choice of firmwares, that would surely have been my very last Motorola phone ever.

Still, I can't see why it'd be so hard for them to allow users to opt out of warranty and killswitch with a big red 'void warranty' button (preferably irreversible). I'd like to know that I have a choice in the matter.


Because some Jack Ass from New York will sue the said company for 'not adequately explaining the implication of opting out'. You can thank the US and its screwed up legal system for why obvious options aren't provided. Sue this, sue that - its a nation of f-cking idiots who sue over anything at the drop of a hat. If it isn't some idiot suing because the idiot spilt coffee over herself, its some w-nker demanding that salt and partially hydrogenated fats are banned because obviously people are too stupid to realise fast food is bad for you (shock! horror!).

I for one laugh though; all the Android fans thinking that their Jesus Phone(tm) will provide them with tonnes of freedom unlike the iPhone they so readily despise. Well, you've got a phone less than a year old - had that been an iPhone you would have received iPhoneOS 4.0 free of charge and without needing to hack your device to get it. Maybe that should be a take home message to all those who bad mouthed Apple only to get royally shafted by Motorola/HTC/etc. with no Android OS update.

Edited 2010-07-21 09:04 UTC

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RE[4]: good thing
by Dryhte on Wed 21st Jul 2010 10:28 in reply to "RE[3]: good thing"
Dryhte Member since:
2008-02-05

I still hope there will be a device manufacturer in the end who sees the light and provides upgrades (maybe because his hardware is so bog standard that it's automatically supported in new versions or so), and all 'power users' will go and buy that manufacturer's handset... I know I would.

Edited 2010-07-21 10:29 UTC

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RE[4]: good thing
by sc3252 on Wed 21st Jul 2010 11:59 in reply to "RE[3]: good thing"
sc3252 Member since:
2005-09-06

Lawsuits have nothing to do with them locking the boot loader, it has everything to do with money and corporate greed, also a smidgen of arrogance that users won't care. All this does is make apple look like the golden child for providing update for 2+ years. I think after hating on apple for the past 3+ years have been convinced that they care more for their customers than the Motorola's and the Samsung's. If Google was smart they would have enforced more strict guidelines for Android so this would not have happened, instead they are letting customers get screwed over by being forced to use 1.5 and 1.6 without updates while every iphone from 2007 at least has 3.0 which is very usable in comparison.

Edited 2010-07-21 12:01 UTC

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RE[4]: good thing
by dragossh on Wed 21st Jul 2010 17:02 in reply to "RE[3]: good thing"
dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

I for one laugh though; all the Android fans thinking that their Jesus Phone(tm) will provide them with tonnes of freedom unlike the iPhone they so readily despise. Well, you've got a phone less than a year old - had that been an iPhone you would have received iPhoneOS 4.0 free of charge and without needing to hack your device to get it.

With half the features gutted.

I think I'll keep my HTC Hero which is getting a decent Android 2.2 port.

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