Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Sep 2010 17:40 UTC, submitted by kragil
Linux Ahem. I just had to write that all-caps headline. Broadcom's wireless chips - used by just about everybody in this industry - have been a major pain in the bum for Linux users, because the company did not release open source drivers. Workarounds had to be created, lots of pain was had in the process, but now, Broadcom has finally seen the light: they have open sourced their wireless Linux drivers.
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RE[4]: Great news...
by joe_regis on Fri 10th Sep 2010 08:42 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Great news..."
joe_regis
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2010-09-10

The Nvidia driver is pretty bad because it is a binary driver. You don't have a working system with it installed. Power management doesn't work for instance. Intel and ATI have the best drivers for GNU/Linux and stuff actually works. Nvidia just has the best gaming cards on GNU/Linux at the moment because the free ATI GNU/Linux drivers aren't finished. The free ATI GNU/Linux drivers are coming along though and you'll find any day now the better buy will be ATI on GNU/Linux. So your claim it would be "more useless without an Nvidia driver" is baseless. I doubt there is a game you couldn't play if Nvidia ceased to exist on GNU/Linux. Check out http://www.thinkpenguin.com/ for free hardware. Then you won't have these issues. These broadcom cards still probably won't be problem free and I'd stick with an Atheros chipset. ThinkPenguin is the only company selling for instance an 802.11n USB wifi card with a free chipset. It's the only card that'll work with GNU/Linux if you plug it in that doesn't require a high degree of hacking to get it to work. Unfortunately companies don't get that you can't require users to download non-free firmware, drivers, and other non-free software. GNU/Linux is based on freedom and you need to comply with these norms if your hardware is going to work on GNU/Linux.

Edited 2010-09-10 08:59 UTC

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RE[5]: Great news...
by DerGenosse on Fri 10th Sep 2010 09:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Great news..."
DerGenosse Member since:
2010-01-11

The Nvidia driver is pretty bad because it is a binary driver. You don't have a working system with it installed. Power management doesn't work for instance.

Ah! Now comes the time where I can finally use the all-purpose Linux evangelists defense spell:

WorksForMe!(TM)

I have a working system with the Nvidia driver. I have a working system with the Nvidia driver and power management works. Your hypothesis has been falsified. Try again, Hans.

Maybe you can come up with something more substantial. Like proving that a major number of Linux users using the Nvidia driver has severe problems. Should be easily possible because the Nvidia driver is: bad, bad, bad! But then there would be still a question left to be answered: is it the fault of the Nvidia driver or the fault of Linux?

The mystery remains.

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