Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Sep 2010 21:32 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Qt After many months of designing, coding, reviewing, testing and documenting, Qt 4.7.0 is finally ready for the big time. Although it's a little more than nine months since Qt's last feature release (4.6.0 on December 1, 2009), the seeds of some of the new stuff in 4.7 were sown much earlier. Indeed, many of the ideas behind the biggest new feature in Qt 4.7.0, Qt Quick, were born more than two years ago, not long after Qt 4.4 was released
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nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

It doesn't matter what Oracle does at this point, Java will never be as clean and Qt isn't tied to a single language.

Java on the server isn't safe either.

People like Shuttleworth need to get over their attachment to GTK and Gnome. Qt and KDE have better teams and better plans for the future.

Qt just has to hit the tipping point where it rivals Apple's native toolkits. A Qt port is in development for Android as well.

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Kalessin Member since:
2007-01-18

And how often is Java used for GUI apps? Sure, it happens often enough (presumably Android apps done in Java are typically GUI apps), but a lot of the stuff that Java is used for has nothing to do with GUIs (especially since swing looks so ugly, though many Java GUI apps use SWT, which looks much better). Java is not the language of choice for GUI apps and never has been.

So, while a more powerful Qt might make doing certain stuff in C++ easier, it's not like it's going to do in Java. Even Oracle's stupidity won't kill it, since it's been open sourced. Now, Oracle's stupity may very well seriously reduce how much Java is used, but it won't kill it.

A better Qt may whittle away at Java's user base, but it isn't going to kill it.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


So, while a more powerful Qt might make doing certain stuff in C++ easier, it's not like it's going to do in Java.

It will in the consumer software sphere which is what I was referring to. Java is still used once in a while for cross-platform consumer applications but Qt will eliminate Java as even a consideration.


Even Oracle's stupidity won't kill it, since it's been open sourced.


Just because something is open sourced does not mean that it will progress. OpenOffice was also open sourced and yet over 90% of the commits were from Sun. Giant codebases like Java and OO require a team of paid developers. Open source does not guarantee success, just look at the HURD.

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iria Member since:
2010-05-17

Shuttleworth is/was using KDE SC on his desktop.
Read interview - http://derstandard.at/3413801/Shuttleworth-Apple-is-driving-the-inn...

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

So? What he personally uses and what he pushes are two different things. I'm sure he runs OSX half the time anyways.

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