Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 30th Sep 2010 12:12 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "I am truly shocked that so many people are being duped by BlackBerry's recent announcement of their tablet, the PlayBook. I have read endless comments from people who are saying they can't wait to get this tablet computer. Well, I think I have some bad news for you folks. There is no evidence that the PlayBook exist as advertised. Why do I say this? I will make it brief..."
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Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

No, but it doesn’t show any level of trust.

Apple: iPad. Here it is, it works, try it yourself, shipping this month.

That is a whole world apart from the trickery RIM is pulling here.

We might complain about the RDF, but Apple seriously know how to not bullcrap us with releases. They will keep it totally secret and then ship the actual real, working product preferably the day they announce it.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Apple: iPad. Here it is, it works, try it yourself, shipping this month.


Your memory deceives you. It took more than two months for it to ship.

Companies announce products ahead of launch ALL THE TIME you know, ESPECIALLY when it involes an ENTIRELY NEW operating system with a BRAND NEW development environment. You know, like how it took 6 months for the original iPhone to ship. Did you complain then? The white iPhone 4?

The usual hypocrisy of the Apple fanboys.

Edited 2010-09-30 13:33 UTC

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brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

The usual hypocrisy of the QNX fanboys. ;)

But in all seriousness I would also like to see real working devices being demoed rather than CG. It's like looking at a floor model of a device at a store and in place if the actual screen is a sticker with some cheesy graphic on it...that doesn't help sell products, it makes people question whether the real thing will be worth a crap.

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Hey, don’t call me an Apple fanboy. My point was that at most times Apple tries to ship things on the day. If it doesn’t, you can bet that Steve Jobs was screaming down the hallways because manufacturing blundered or couldn’t get the job done (white iPhone 4). You know that Steve plans everything to ship the day it’s announced and the only reason it doesn’t is because some third party let them down.

Basically, Steve’s whole attitude to releases is the polar opposite of most other companies who can’t keep their traps shut and mouth off about that which they can’t actually deliver. *cough*Vista*cough*

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REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

The iPad and iPhone did take a few months to release to the general public however apple did two things differently.

The iPhone demonstration was live on the stage when they previewed it, it wasn't a set up, as you can see through the blackberry video the unit he had on stage was a very early prototype and not a fully working unit unlike the iPhone.

The iPad also wasn't released the same day it was announced however it was available to attendees to try out at the event and not placed in an untouchable plastic box.

I think the bloggers point is really not to get overly excited as the IT industry has been here many times before, where a product is announced only for it to fizzle into nothing year / half a year later. Windows Slate, Courier for examples from Microsoft.

Don't get me wrong, im interested in the launch of the PlayBook, i love the idea that the QNX OS is finding it's way into public life and not simply as the OS for nuclear power plants and cars. I own and love using an iPad, i find it a really good replacement for a traveling laptop for the tasks i need to complete, and although it's starting to feel a rather worn out phrase it doesn't make it any less true to say that Competition is good, the more the merrier. During the 80's the computing industry was rife with new ideas, new hardware, new OS's, new software, the late 90's and early 2000's where as beige in innovation as the pc's sat on peoples desks.

I think the bloggers overall remark is valid, lets not get too over excited, lets see what is actually released because even if it's half as good as RIM has said it is, it's gonna be a winning product.

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polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

"Apple: iPad. Here it is, it works, try it yourself, shipping this month.


Your memory deceives you. It took more than two months for it to ship.

Companies announce products ahead of launch ALL THE TIME you know, ESPECIALLY when it involes an ENTIRELY NEW operating system with a BRAND NEW development environment. You know, like how it took 6 months for the original iPhone to ship. Did you complain then? The white iPhone 4?

The usual hypocrisy of the Apple fanboys.
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Oh for Chrissakes Thom, Apple announced it in January, said it would ship in April, and guess what? It shipped in April. When exactly is the Playbook shipping? Oh yeah, no one knows. All we get from you are the typical Apple hater crap, masked with the "and I'm actually an Apple user, so don't think I'm an Apple hater" BS.

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Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

That's the case all the time. Apple never does "concepts", also. They just release working devices, and never show experimental products. That's the way they work, and showing concepts (to gauge interest, to show off, to attract investors and shareholders) is the way other companies work.

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lopisaur Member since:
2006-02-27

That's the case all the time. Apple never does "concepts", also. They just release working devices, and never show experimental products. That's the way they work, and showing concepts (to gauge interest, to show off, to attract investors and shareholders) is the way other companies work.


Sorry to disturb your fanboyness, but do some googling.
Copland? Pink? Taligent?
Jeez.

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Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

but Apple seriously know how to not bullcrap us with releases. They will keep it totally secret and then ship the actual real, working product preferably the day they announce it.

White. iPhone.

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Manu. Facturing.

You’re missing the comparison. Apple didn’t fake the white iPhone with CG and an empty shell. It existed, but they couldn’t get the manufacturing to scale at the last minute.

RIM are trying to pass off a product that doesn’t exist as the done deal. The iPhone however was being built, boxed, and sent to distribution centres as Steve was talking.

There’s a vast chasm between being able to build a prototype and having a product that can be unboxed, installed, and used by customers. Vast.

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