Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Oct 2010 14:25 UTC
Windows With the release of Windows Phone 7 upon us, the hype machine now goes all the way up to 11. While hype machines are generally relatively harmless and easy to poke a hole through, coordinated FUD campaigns by patent trolls are not. After Apple and Microsoft trolled HTC, and Microsoft now trolling Motorola, the actual FUD campaign against Android is in full swing.
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It's gonna get worse before it gets better
by JeffS on Tue 5th Oct 2010 16:19 UTC
JeffS
Member since:
2005-07-12

This a huge mess. Everyone is suing everyone right now, particularly in the smartphone arena, but in other arenas as well.

Eventually something is going to give. The big tech titans are going to eventually realize that this is all a huge waste of time and money, and nobody really wins, except for the lawyers and patent trolls (who regularly sue the big tech titans - look at Apple losing a lawsuit to a patent troll over cover flow).

It costs a lot of money to file patents, it costs a lot of money litigating patents, and it costs a lot of money fighting off patent litigation.

Eventually the cost of filing, litigating, and fighting off patents is going to exceed the revenue that patent licenses might bring in.

Then the big tech titans are going to go to congress, with money toting lobbyists, and campaign for real patent reform.

Here is my patent reform "wish list":

1. Abolish software patents

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Patents are an intrinsic part of the US constitution, so it is not gonna happen.

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irbis Member since:
2005-07-08

Patents are an intrinsic part of the US constitution, so it is not gonna happen.

The US constitution says nothing about software patents that often cover very basic ideas that could be invented by almost anyone anytime.

But, yeah, many big companies in the USA seem to fear that the only means to compete against the growing competition is by building a protective wall from their so-called "intellectual property". But that is more about blocking others than about encouraging innovation and competition.

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emilsedgh Member since:
2007-06-21

They will never stop this patent game. They dont care how much money they spend on it.

To them, patents are more than a source of revenue (through license fee's).

Microsoft doesnt really look for Motorola's license fee's. They are taking advantage of the situation to spread FUD about their competeitor. And sweet patents are the only tool available for the job.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Microsoft doesnt really look for Motorola's license fee's. They are taking advantage of the situation to spread FUD about their competeitor. And sweet patents are the only tool available for the job.


Attacking Google with weak patents just gives Google an excellent opportunity to fight back.

Google can now legitimately counter-attack (perhaps take down Bing?) and they can also now allege all kinds of anti-competitive behaviour of Microsoft without having to wear such accusations themselves (as in, you raised the lawsuit, not us).

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Abolish software patents


It's easy to say that when you don't have any skin in the game. I like software patents. They've provided a decent amount of money to me over the years, and I'm not fond of people infringing on my inventions.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"Abolish software patents
It's easy to say that when you don't have any skin in the game. I like software patents. They've provided a decent amount of money to me over the years, and I'm not fond of people infringing on my inventions. "

By definition, you cannot invent abstract ideas, scientific theories or mathematics, you can only uncover or discover them. In contrast, "inventions" are specific physical embodiments of ideas.

Software is mathematics.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

It's easy to say that when you don't have any skin in the game. I like software patents. They've provided a decent amount of money to me over the years, and I'm not fond of people infringing on my inventions.

So, if you're knowledgeable on that subject, please explain how copyright is not enough and you have to patent vague concepts in a manner that's more prone to abuse than legit use in order to be happy.

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