Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Oct 2010 20:54 UTC
Apple Is it an indication of Steve Jobs' (in)famous strive for perfection, or just stupid bone-headedness? The white variant of the iPhone 4 was first delayed for a few weeks, but those few weeks became 'end of the year'. Now we know why: the manufacturers Apple employs are apparently having issues matching the shades of white of the various components. This anecdote ties in nicely with a very interesting interview with John Sculley about Steve Jobs' ways of doing business.
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RE[4]: Hmmm
by Neolander on Sun 17th Oct 2010 13:40 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Hmmm"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

The phone market is different from the PC market. There are a lot of possible HW/SW combinations, and no standard has emerged (and hopefully none will ever will, since phones answer much more varied use cases than computer so a single hardware would be a very bad idea)

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RE[5]: Hmmm
by MysterMask on Sun 17th Oct 2010 14:51 in reply to "RE[4]: Hmmm"
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2005-07-12

I see no fundamental difference between the PC and the Phone. Just because the speed of change in the (more mature) PC HW market is slower doesn't mean we have to stick to PS2 and be thankful for it.

since phones answer much more varied use cases than computer so a single hardware would be a very bad idea)


??
Up till now I thought PCs were the versatile 'everything is possible' machines while phones are primarily phones and as such, they are restricted to mobile use, i. e. have limits when it comes to size, power usage, etc. You can use your PC as a phone - you can't use your phone with a 30'' monitor, scanner, printer, blu-ray drive, ..

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RE[6]: Hmmm
by Neolander on Sun 17th Oct 2010 20:26 in reply to "RE[5]: Hmmm"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I see no fundamental difference between the PC and the Phone. Just because the speed of change in the (more mature) PC HW market is slower doesn't mean we have to stick to PS2 and be thankful for it.

Of course, but on a mature market like PC hardware, you don't expect to see people breaking things everyday in an attempt to make something new, like in the Linux desktop or in the smartphone market. Customer needs have moved towards stabilization and only gradual improvements (faster processing and networking, cheaper devices, a wider range of screen sizes, better battery life).
Actually, I think it's a good thing. Computers have become tools used at work. As such, they need to have the stability of a tool. People don't want added features in screw drivers and drills everyday, they want something cheap and working properly.

No sure if I made myself clear enough.

since phones answer much more varied use cases than computer so a single hardware would be a very bad idea)

??
Up till now I thought PCs were the versatile 'everything is possible' machines while phones are primarily phones and as such, they are restricted to mobile use, i. e. have limits when it comes to size, power usage, etc. You can use your PC as a phone - you can't use your phone with a 30'' monitor, scanner, printer, blu-ray drive, ..

That is a long gone dream. Since that thought was widespread, people have discovered (again) that "one size fits all" is fundamentally a bad idea.

A lcd screen, no matter how well-engineered, is not good for reading books. It's better to have a dedicated device with a e-ink or pixelQi screen. Fundamentally, PCs are also too big to answer some user needs (take texting as an example : if I need to communicate something to somebody quickly in the middle of a crowded train, I just can't put my laptop out of my bag, and using it... well... don't even think of it).

Today, PCs have settled on a range of needs :
-Office work (Worxelpoint)
-Heavy web browsing and communication (when you have a lot of time to spend)
-Heavy data acquisition (from a peripheral)
-Number crunching, data analysis
-Multimedia content creation
-High-end entertainment (high-quality games, watching movies when you don't have a TV)
-Programming

That's more or less it. So until holographic displays and telepathic communication are here... We more or less have everything we need to do that on the average computer. With their nice general-purpose hardware, PCs are more or less skilled in an area or another, you just choose one depending on your needs.

Phones are another story. There is a world between a Nokia N900 and Sagem's "just to talk" mobile phones. Phones generally only target communication, light entertainment and content consumption, but because of their small size and low price they can't even target all of that. They are fundamentally specialized devices. You can, as an example, see the following software/hardware combinations on the phone market :
-Basic phone (extremely good for voice call and light texting, but nothing else. Dying breed)
-Average guy's phone (like the basic phone, but with some added multimedia and light entertainment features at the cost of battery life and build quality)
-Keyboard phone (has a full azerty keyboard and often a decent mail client. Allows much better written communication than the ones above, but worse portability. Either quite expensive and packed with a lot of features, or a variant of the average guy's phone with crappier build quality and battery life)
-Overpriced toy (come with a touchscreen and very expensive. Completely ditch communication in favor of better web browsing and heavier entertainment, close to a portable video game console and a good DAP. Pretend to be able to do everything because the API is disclosed, in practice not so much except if you like farts)

Edited 2010-10-17 20:38 UTC

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