Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 22:22 UTC, submitted by vivainio
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu This is kind of... Well, good news, I suppose? It depends on where you allegiances lie, but it seems like Ubuntu is warming up to the idea of using Qt to develop applications. It's no secret that Qt is a far more advanced development framework than Gtk+, so it only makes sense for Ubuntu - a GNOME/Gtk+ distribution - is looking at it.
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Comment by cmost
by cmost on Wed 20th Oct 2010 22:25 UTC
cmost
Member since:
2006-07-16

"Qt has a lot to offer Ubuntu..."

Funny, you wouldn't know it from the sad state of Kubuntu presently.

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RE: Comment by cmost
by lemur2 on Wed 20th Oct 2010 22:33 in reply to "Comment by cmost"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"Qt has a lot to offer Ubuntu..." Funny, you wouldn't know it from the sad state of Kubuntu presently.


Clearly a person who hasn't tried Kubuntu on 10.04 or 10.10. Its fine except for Kwin within KDE 4.5 with the ATI open source drivers just now, but that is a problem for any KDE 4.5 installation not just Kubuntu, and the only effect is to disable compositing. One can use compiz for KDE as a work-around.

In every other facet, Kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 gives you a great desktop with a fine set of well-integrated KDE SC applications, and it is completely free of Mono as a bonus.

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RE[2]: Comment by cmost
by flynn on Wed 20th Oct 2010 23:03 in reply to "RE: Comment by cmost"
flynn Member since:
2009-03-19

and it is completely free of Mono as a bonus.

Take your mono trolling elsewhere.

We get it, you don't like mono, so stop bringing it up in every other article already.

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RE[2]: Comment by cmost
by testman on Wed 20th Oct 2010 23:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by cmost"
testman Member since:
2007-10-15

So it's fine, unless you have an ubiquitous video card in which case you'll have to disable default features in order to get things working?

Drivers fault or not, it's all part of a package and the package suffers for it. Having to search for workarounds after installation does not engender good first-impressions.

Thankfully my test machine uses an Intel chipset which seems well-supported (if a little sluggish). Overall, my personal first impressions are actually quite positive. If it can work with my Samsung MediaLive...

Edited 2010-10-20 23:58 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by cmost
by cmost on Thu 21st Oct 2010 00:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by cmost"
cmost Member since:
2006-07-16

""Qt has a lot to offer Ubuntu..." Funny, you wouldn't know it from the sad state of Kubuntu presently.


Clearly a person who hasn't tried Kubuntu on 10.04 or 10.10. Its fine except for Kwin within KDE 4.5 with the ATI open source drivers just now, but that is a problem for any KDE 4.5 installation not just Kubuntu, and the only effect is to disable compositing. One can use compiz for KDE as a work-around.

In every other facet, Kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 gives you a great desktop with a fine set of well-integrated KDE SC applications, and it is completely free of Mono as a bonus.
"

Clearly, you're wrong! Actually, I've had Kubuntu running on my laptop since Kubuntu 9.10. KDE 4.x, itself is absolutely fine. What's missing is the myriad of customizations Canonical bakes into its Gnome based Ubuntu. Very few, if any customizations have made it into Kubuntu which is why I stand by my statements. Kubuntu really doesn't offer much apart from a stock KDE implementation or anything unique from Canonical to separate it from the myriad of other better KDE offerings from Sabayon, Linux Mint, or Mepis. Canonical and the Ubuntu devs treat Kubuntu like an afterthought. It's little more than an Ubuntu base install with the (vanilla) KDE packages and a few different default applications. And they call it a distribution. Really?

Edited 2010-10-21 00:13 UTC

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RE: Comment by cmost
by orestes on Wed 20th Oct 2010 22:56 in reply to "Comment by cmost"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Semantics are fun. KDE generally implies QT usage, but the reverse is not true at all. Plenty of open source and proprietary applications that use the QT toolkit have no relation at all to the KDE project.

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RE[2]: Comment by cmost
by ggeldenhuys on Thu 21st Oct 2010 10:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by cmost"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

Well said, and very true! The original article talks about Ubuntu+Qt, not Ubuntu+KDE.

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Better think before talking
by Nth_Man on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:31 in reply to "Comment by cmost"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

> Funny, you wouldn't know it from the sad state of
> Kubuntu presently.
I use the present Kubuntu and I know what I'm talking about. You could try it, too, and tell us where is the "sad state" instead of talking before thinking.

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