Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Nov 2010 17:10 UTC
Apple Do you like VLC on your iPhone or iPad? You don't yet have it installed, but want to? Well, then you'd better be quick about it, as some VLC contributors are unhappy with the fact that VLC is distributed through Apple's App Store, violating the GPL the video player is licensed under. At least, that's what some think.
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RE[8]: No worries
by fewt on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 12:06 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: No worries"
fewt
Member since:
2010-06-09

Right. Some random dude on the internet knows better how the GPL works than the guy and organisation that wrote it.


Does David know that you are this much of a dick towards people using his site?

I was quoting Richard Stallman, and as much as I disagree with many things that he says, I'll take his word over the opinion of an FSF blogger (who has no legal background) any-day. If you can't provide case-law to make your case then you should just quit talking. Behaving like a 12 year old isn't going to win you any friends.

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RE[9]: No worries
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 12:22 in reply to "RE[8]: No worries"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Repeating stuff that has been proven to be wrong a million times in this thread alone kind of works on people's nerves - especially when the man and organisation that actually wrote the damn GPL disagrees with you. Yes, had you actually read the mailing list at VideoLAN you would've known RMS made his position clear also.

But hey, don't let the truth stand in your way. She's pesky!

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RE[10]: No worries
by fewt on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 12:38 in reply to "RE[9]: No worries"
fewt Member since:
2010-06-09

Repeating stuff that has been proven to be wrong a million times in this thread alone kind of works on people's nerves - especially when the man and organisation that actually wrote the damn GPL disagrees with you. Yes, had you actually read the mailing list at VideoLAN you would've known RMS made his position clear also.

But hey, don't let the truth stand in your way. She's pesky!


Oh, you mean this?

Subject: Good work!
From: "Richard Stallman" <rms at gnu.org>
Date: Thu, October 28, 2010 07:41

I am glad that VLC is enforcing the GPL against Apple.
The FSF has done so too.

I was disappointed though that the message says "open source"
so much, instead of "free/libre software". By talking more
about freedom, it could show more clearly the reason for doing this.

Rather puzzlingly, some of the vlc developers have moved to silence R=E9mi,
by blocking his input from their RSS feed. As a counter protest, he has
taken down his popular site, planet.videolan.org.

I am confused by this. It sounds like there is a conflict
among the VLC developers, but I don't understand why.

--
Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org


It really doesn't say anything other than that he is glad that they are attempting to enforce the GPL against Apple. It doesn't provide any insight into the issue what-so-ever. I'm sure he said the same thing to whomever discovered the Tivo issue also.

Here is an interview with RMS describing how GPL v3 is necessary to eliminate companies from applying DRM to GPL software (which implies awareness of a loophole allowing it).

http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/21/linux-stallman-gnu_cx_dl_0321stall...

Relevant quote:

The reason I hope Torvalds will decide to adopt GPLv3 is to make Linux resistant to "tivoization."


- Richard Stallman

Edit: I see you have replied and locked the thread to block any further response. If you cannot prove yourself right any other way, prove it with force. So very mature, Thom.

Edited 2010-11-02 12:51 UTC

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RE[9]: No worries
by polaris20 on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 12:25 in reply to "RE[8]: No worries"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

"Right. Some random dude on the internet knows better how the GPL works than the guy and organisation that wrote it.


Does David know that you are this much of a dick towards people using his site?
"

Perhaps he doesn't. I'll shoot him an e-mail or give him a call and point this thread out.

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RE[9]: No worries
by Valhalla on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 12:33 in reply to "RE[8]: No worries"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

I'll take his word over the opinion of an FSF blogger (who has no legal background) any-day.

The 'FSF blogger' was directly quoting the actual LICENCE in question which says that: "You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein."

These are CONDITIONS for using the code/software under this LICENCE, not following these conditions when distributing results in a COPYRIGHT VIOLATION.

I have to agree with Thom, I think you are embarassing yourself here.

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