Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Nov 2010 22:32 UTC
Internet & Networking "What if you could essentially fake your death online - completely delete any trace of yourself from Facebook, Twitter, blogs, forums, Usenet, and anywhere else there might be some record of your existence. Such a concept is largely impossible today, especially given complications from services like Facebook combined with caches and mirrors of practically everything ever e-created. The European Commission wants to change that."
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Portuguese law
by Sodki on Fri 5th Nov 2010 10:22 UTC
Sodki
Member since:
2005-11-10

This is not about government controlling your data, this is about you controlling your data. And I think this is a very good thing.

In Portugal, you can make a request to any organization or company so that any of your personal data that they hold be changed or deleted.

This doesn't mean that those organizations or companies honor that request, but then it's a legal issue.

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RE: Portuguese law
by jjmckay on Fri 5th Nov 2010 10:47 in reply to "Portuguese law"
jjmckay Member since:
2005-11-11

This is not about government controlling your data, this is about you controlling your data.


That seems false to me. Once people and businesses can be forced (by police action if necessary) to delete data that is in their own storage systems then their data is now under collectivized ownership. That starts the slippery slope of 'what the authorities will allow you to store.'

The RIAA has found a populist route into deleting USENET and other infringing data. It's easy, just use terminology that fulfills people's own selfish and fearful tendencies.

FTA:
The protection of personal data is a fundamental right.


Carl Marx would agree.

Slander laws should cover this sort of thing. This political action is waaaay overkill.

The obvious goal is to help mitigate incidents like the recent discovery that some Facebook apps were selling user data to third parties.


People willingly submitted their personal information and Facebook apparently followed the law and people are upset? This nanny-state law is trying to protect people from their own stupid/foolish actions.

People say they want freedom until they stupidly submit their personal information onto Internet websites and then they cry foul when that information spreads on the global network. Absolutely absurd. What happened to common sense?

edit: Outlawing foolish behavior creates more problems than it solves. It services the ruling elite who get to create even more laws later on to prop up the failing ones. It's a cycle of misery and failure. This can all be avoided by applying the universal rule: don't do foolish things and don't expect the government to save you from foolish actions without first enslaving you.

Edited 2010-11-05 11:00 UTC

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RE[2]: Portuguese law
by Sodki on Fri 5th Nov 2010 11:06 in reply to "RE: Portuguese law"
Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

That seems false to me. Once people and businesses can be forced (by police action if necessary) to delete data that is in their own storage systems then their data is now under collectivized ownership. That starts the slippery slope of 'what the authorities will allow you to store.'

You're reading it wrong. It's your data. It's the data that you provided to the organization or company. The decision to take it back is your decision. Not RIAA's, not the authorities. This is not about copyright infringement, this is about your personal data.

Slander laws should cover this sort of thing. This political action is waaaay overkill.

This has absolutely nothing to do with slander. This is not about using your data abusively, this is about storing personal information/data.

People willingly submitted their personal information and Facebook apparently followed the law and people are upset? This nanny-state law is trying to protect people from their own stupid/foolish actions.

Why shouldn't people have the right to take back information that they own?

People say they want freedom until they stupidly submit their personal information onto Internet websites and then they cry foul when that information spreads on the global network. Absolutely absurd. What happened to common sense?

I agree with you on this. People should know what they're getting into. And most of the times they do, but choose to ignore it. It's absurd. It also has nothing to do with the case at hand.

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RE[2]: Portuguese law
by spiderman on Fri 5th Nov 2010 13:00 in reply to "RE: Portuguese law"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Carl Marx would agree.

You know nothing about Karl Marx.

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