Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Mon 8th Nov 2010 22:37 UTC
The latest version of the REBOL 3 open host kit, alpha 110, enables Syllable Desktop for the first time to run the REBOL 3 client/server RebDev collaboration application for chat and development files sharing (screenshot).
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Member since:2006-07-14
Syllable, like pretty much any hobby os, is dead. The only ones surviving are either supported by corporations - Windows, Os X, QNX, Symbian, Android, Solaris, either supported by big comunities - Linux(es), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenIndiana.
So ... Windows, Os X, QNX, Symbian, Android, Solaris are Hobby OSes?? That can't be what you meant. But neither does the other implication that hobby Oses are only alive and successful if they have as many people using them as those you listed as "not dead".
IMHO, a hobby OS is successful if its use and development is ... a hobby for 1 or more people. I don't go around and declare people's stamp collections to be failures because there are larger collections out there with more valuable stamps.
By the same logic, I declare you to be dead as you are not supported by a large community, and people don't use you on a regular basis to get work done.
Member since:2010-06-09
Good reply. :-) I don't think we will be able to agree on a common definition of "dead" here on OSNews. For informational purposes: Syllable Server is currently being rolled out at a large, established US company. It's literally a household name: they're producing housekeeping materials.
I'll admit this isn't the glorious sort of news that OSNews geeks like to dwell on. ;-)
Member since:2006-05-18
But Syllable, SkyOS, Haiku, Menuet, ReactOS, are pretty much dead.
You are only partially correct.
Haiku is far from dead. In fact, quite the opposite it has a lot of momentum and a beta usable on a daily basis should not be very far IMO.
ReactOS is actively developed, but I don't think it's going anywhere because of Windows' complexity and constant improvement. Playing catchup is a bitch.
Judging from the progress they're making Syllable looks kinda dead or dying.
Menuet has a lot of releases and shows constant progress although there are only a handful of people working on it. Also, I don't think its objective is to take on Windows, but just to showcase how far you can get only with assembler.
SkyOS is indeed dead. It's a pity because Robert (the author) is a freaking genius and SkyOS was in many ways ahead of the desktop OSes of its time. Probably working on your own OS doesn't quite pay the bills though. Still if someone were to pay a nice salary to this guy to work full-time on SkyOS, probably in a year or two it would reach feature parity with the serious desktop OSes.
Member since:2008-09-11
Still if someone were to pay a nice salary to this guy to work full-time on SkyOS, probably in a year or two it would reach feature parity with the serious desktop OSes.
Judging by the level of complexity in the mainstream OS-es, it think it would take 20-30 Roberts to write a decent OS from scratch.
And an OS isn't any good without software. So you need another few hundreds of developers to write/port software.
Member since:2009-05-28
On the topic of Haiku as a dead OS. I'd seriously disagree. I have a machine here that's set up to technically triple boot Linux (Ubuntu), Windows, and Haiku. To be honest, i use Haiku the most out of the three. In it's current state, it's more than usable.
Syllable is interesting, and REBOL is very powerful and can produce some fantastic stuff if you learn it. I personally don't code REBOLm, but i know someone who's pretty good at it (He should be, he's the son of the creator of REBOL XD )
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Syllable, like pretty much any hobby os, is dead. The only ones surviving are either supported by corporations - Windows, Os X, QNX, Symbian, Android, Solaris, either supported by big comunities - Linux(es), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenIndiana.
But Syllable, SkyOS, Haiku, Menuet, ReactOS, are pretty much dead.
While 30 years ago a single guy could sit in front of his computer and write something like DOS or Minix in a year, writing something comparable to Windows, Os X or Linux in complexity requires pretty big resources.