Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Nov 2010 22:24 UTC, submitted by koki
GNU, GPL, Open Source Now this is interesting. We see what is at its core a very valid concern, in practice not a problem to anyone, and, thanks to the tone of the press release, close to trolling. The Free Software Foundation Latin America is complaining about something that has been known for a while - there is some non-Free code stuck in the Linux kernel (mostly firmware). A valid issue of concern from an idealogical viewpoint, but sadly, the tone of the press release turns this valid concern into something close to trolling.
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Linux is _not_ an ideological project
by google_ninja on Wed 10th Nov 2010 00:44 UTC
google_ninja
Member since:
2006-02-05

Linus has stated this many, many times. The only reason the GPL is used is to keep people playing fair, not so Free Software can take over the world. I find it funny that people so out of touch that they don't realize the project is borderline hostile towards their organization decided to make press releases pretending this isn't the case.

Maybe they could spend their time better by actually accomplishing something and getting HURD (which _is_ an ideological project) out the door, so that innocents like them won't be caught up in the non-free software scam that is linux.

In closing, here is the leader of the FSF eating something off of his foot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ (I can't help it, the fsf brings out the troll in me)

Edited 2010-11-10 00:47 UTC

Reply Score: 5

Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

Maybe they could spend their time better by actually accomplishing something and getting HURD
(which _is_ an ideological project) out the door

FSFLA is not FSF, it's an independant organisation which speaks for themselves.

(I can't help it, the fsf brings out the troll in me)

No, I think it's just because you are a typical douchebag who relies on ad hominem attacks because you have no real arguments.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

No, I think it's just because you are a typical douchebag who relies on ad hominem attacks because you have no real arguments.


Were you being serious? I was sort of joking with that last line, but you are essentially calling yourself a douchebag too, since you are resorting to an ad hominem attack ;)

My argument (I wasn't arguing by the way, I was pointing out something funny) was that linus has said he doesn't care about the ideology of the FSF, especially in regards to the linux project, several times and quite publicly. If the leader of project explicitly says he doesn't care about what you stand for, it is sort of funny when you turn around and make a big deal over something that indicates that the linux project doesn't really care about what you stand for.

My argument against the FSF in a more general way is that they are the George Bush of the software world. The like to use highly emotionally charged language that isn't really appropriate in order to pretend what they are doing is more important then it actually is. Nelson Mandela stands for freedom, Mahatma Gandhi stood for freedom, the FSF stands for source code being available to everyone, and calling that freedom is inappropriate and insulting to say the least.

I did feel a little bad about that comment, thank you for providing me the opportunity to elaborate.

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Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

So... are any of those Pepsi cans Stallman's? Surely he knows that Pepsi's recipe isn't open or available to Pepsi drinkers.

Why doesn't he support free and open soda recipes?

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