Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Nov 2010 22:35 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Fedora Core Well, what do we have here? It turns out that Ubuntu isn't the only Linux distribution who took a left turn off the X.org highway, now driving on a road that will eventually lead to replacing X.org with Wayland. Fedora's 'graphics cabal', as they call themselves, have explained themselves on Fedora's devel mailing list. They also explain how network transparency can be added to Wayland in a number of different ways, making the mailing list thread intriguing reading material. Also, everybody happy with the headline? No panties in twists this time around...?
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RE[6]: Not shocking
by sorpigal on Mon 15th Nov 2010 19:24 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Not shocking"
sorpigal
Member since:
2005-11-02

I have no problem with X developers talking about what's wrong with X and what we'll do about it. X will not and should not last forever; the time for change has certainly come. The new system needs to be well planned and considered such that it can last another 20 years, but presuming that this is done I have no problems with it.

What I don't like are people who are not X hackers and who know nothing about its history and function declaring that X is dead and hailing the great savior Wayland, as if all things they perceive as wrong with Linux desktop environments will magically disappear when Wayland descends from the heavens.

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RE[7]: Not shocking
by boldingd on Mon 15th Nov 2010 22:41 in reply to "RE[6]: Not shocking"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

What I don't like are people who are not X hackers and who know nothing about its history and function declaring that X is dead and hailing the great savior Wayland, as if all things they perceive as wrong with Linux desktop environments will magically disappear when Wayland descends from the heavens.


I can't mod you up enough.

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RE[7]: Not shocking
by abraxas on Tue 16th Nov 2010 01:41 in reply to "RE[6]: Not shocking"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

What I don't like are people who are not X hackers and who know nothing about its history and function declaring that X is dead and hailing the great savior Wayland, as if all things they perceive as wrong with Linux desktop environments will magically disappear when Wayland descends from the heavens.


This has happened before...many times. I remember when DirectFB was going to be the next big thing and it would solve all of our problems. Then it was "Y" and other small projects that faded into oblivion. Now it's Wayland. Wayland certainly has a better chance, given its progenitors but it is still a long, long way off before it even has the potential to overtake X. By then X may have evolved into a very different beast, and/or Wayland may become insufficient for future needs.

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RE[8]: Not shocking
by TheGZeus on Tue 16th Nov 2010 09:24 in reply to "RE[7]: Not shocking"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

I think that the last statement is likely. I'm really not convinced that GL is good enough for a windowing system. one more thing that assumes I'm writing C.

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RE[8]: Not shocking
by sorpigal on Tue 16th Nov 2010 11:48 in reply to "RE[7]: Not shocking"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

On a totally related note we are now left with exactly two viable choices for a name for an X successor: X12 and Z. The fact that wayland starts with W clearly indicates that is an evolutionary step backwards, since X was better than W from day one (alphabetically speaking).

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