Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Dec 2010 22:45 UTC
In the News And so the Wikileaks saga continues - with politics once again crossing with the technology side of things. After several DDoS attacks on Wikileaks' website, the organisation decided to move their website over to Amazon's cloud service yesterday. Today, Amazon kicked Wikileaks out of its cloud after being pressured by US Congress. Update: [Kroc] In a Q&A on the Guardian website, Julian Assange drops the bomb--Amazon failed the test: "Since 2007 we have been deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit inorder to separate rhetoric from reality. Amazon was one of these cases.". Stunning.
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RE: pfft
by Karitku on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 09:40 UTC in reply to "pfft"
Karitku
Member since:
2006-01-12

America hates our freedom.

What freedom? Can I carry gun? No. Can I make my own booze? No. Can I buy snuff? No. Can I watch TV free? No. Can I marry several women/men? No. Can I use repro Nazi uniform? Not in german.

Btw why hasn't Assange and Wikileaks published any European stuff? Perhaps because he hates america and is typical leftwing anarchist.

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RE[2]: pfft
by Timmmm on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 11:11 in reply to "RE: pfft"
Timmmm Member since:
2006-07-25

Can I carry gun? No.


Thank god! You know most of the world views that as one of the craziest things about America?

Can I make my own booze? No.


Yes you can.

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RE[3]: pfft
by Karitku on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 13:22 in reply to "RE[2]: pfft"
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

" Can I carry gun? No.


Thank god! You know most of the world views that as one of the craziest things about America?

Can I make my own booze? No.


Yes you can.
"
Bullshit! In Finland it's illegal to make alcohol by distiling. Same thing in many other european country.

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RE[3]: pfft
by Hypnos on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 13:28 in reply to "RE[2]: pfft"
Hypnos Member since:
2008-11-19

" Can I carry gun? No.


Thank god! You know most of the world views that as one of the craziest things about America?
"

FYI --

* There is no evidence that gun ownership in the US has any correlation with violent crime.

* Many peaceful countries -- Switzerland and Finland, to name two -- have high rates of gun possession.

This suggests that it's not guns that are the problem in America, but the Americans who own them.

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RE[3]: pfft
by Tuishimi on Sun 5th Dec 2010 00:29 in reply to "RE[2]: pfft"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Really? That's odd. I am pretty sure there are several European countries where you are required to serve in the military and your weapon stays with you the rest of your life.

Anyway, I am licensed to carry concealed... and in my state (Arizona) we are allowed to carry in the open. I like being able to carry my weapon, especially when traveling in the wilderness as my wife and I often do.

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RE[2]: pfft
by Almafeta on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 16:48 in reply to "RE: pfft"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

Btw why hasn't Assange and Wikileaks published any European stuff? Perhaps because he hates america and is typical leftwing anarchist.


http://wikileaks.org/about.html

This URL lists some of their "greatest hits." Try a few of these exposés from outside the US:

■ The looting of Kenya under President Moi - $3,000,000,000 presidential corruption exposed; swung the Dec 2007 Kenyan election, long document, be patient
■ Gusmao's $15m rice deal alarms UN - Rice deal corruption in East Timor
■ How election violence was financed - the embargoed Kenyan Human Rights Commission report into the Jan 2008 killings of over 1,300 Kenyans
■ Financial collapse: Confidential exposure analysis of 205 companies each owing above EUR45M to Icelandic bank Kaupthing, 26 Sep 2008 - Publication of a confidential report that has lead to hundreds of newspaper articles worldwide
■ Barclays Bank gags Guardian over leaked memos detailing offshore tax scam, 16 Mar 2009 - Publication of censored documents revealing a number of elaborate international tax avoidance schemes by the SCM (Structured Capital Markets) division of Barclays
■ Bank Julius Baer: Grand Larceny via Grand Cayman - How the largest private Swiss bank avoids paying tax to the Swiss government
■ Der Fall Moonstone Trust - Cayman Islands Swiss bank trust exposed
■ Over 40 billion euro in 28167 claims made against the Kaupthing Bank, 23 Jan 2010 - List of Kaupthing claimants after Icelandic banking crash
■ Northern Rock vs. WikiLeaks - Northern Rock Bank UK failed legal injunctions over the ¡Ì24,000,000,000 collapse
■ Draft Copenhagen climate change agreement, 8 Dec 2009 - Confidential draft "circle of commitment" (rich-country) Copenhagen climate change agreement
■ Draft Copenhagen Accord Dec 18, 2009 - Three page draft Copehagen "accord", from around Friday 7pm, Dec 18, 2009; includes pen-markings
■ Climatic Research Unit emails, data, models, 1996-2009 - Over 60MB of emails, documents, code and models from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, written between 1996 and 2009 that lead to a worldwide debate
■ The Monju nuclear reactor leak - Three suppressed videos from Japan's fast breeder reactor Monju revealing the true extent of the 1995 sodium coolant disaster
■ Inside Somalia and the Union of Islamic Courts - Vital strategy documents in the Somali war and a play for Chinese support
■ The Independent: Toxic Shame: Thousands injured in African city, 17 Sep 2009 - Publication of an article originally published in UK newspaper The Independent, but censored from the Independent's website. WikiLeaks has saved dozens of articles, radio and tv recordings from disappearing after having been censored from BBC, Guardian, and other major news organisations archives.
■ Secret gag on UK Times preventing publication of Minton report into toxic waste dumping, 16 Sep 2009 - Publication of variations of a so-called super-injunction, one of many gag-orders published by WikiLeaks to expose successful attempts to suppress the free press via repressive legal attacks
■ Media suppression order over Turks and Caicos Islands Commission of Inquiry corruption report, 20 Jul 2009 - Exposure of a press gagging order from the Turks and Caicos Islands, related to WikiLeaks exposure of the Commission of Inquiry corruption report
■ Bermuda's Premier Brown and the BCC bankdraft - Brown went to the Privy council London to censor the press in Bermuda
■ How German intelligence infiltrated Focus magazine - Illegal spying on German journalists
■ Toll Collect Vertraege, 2002 - Publication of around 10.000 pages of a secret contract between the German federal government and the Toll Collect consortium, a private operator group for heavy vehicle tolling system
■ Leaked documents suggest European CAP reform just a whitewash - European farm reform exposed
■ Church of Scientology's 'Operating Thetan' documents leaked online - Scientology's secret, and highly litigated bibles
■ Eutelsat suppresses independent Chinese-language TV station NTDTV to satisfy Beijing - French sat provider Eutelsat covertly removed an anti-communist TV channel to satisfy Beijing
■ Internet Censorship in Thailand - The secret internet censorship lists of Thailand's military junta

If you are saying that breaking news like this is typical for the left wing, then the left wing must be full of patriots and superheroes. But, hey, your words, not mine.

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RE[2]: pfft
by phreck on Fri 3rd Dec 2010 11:07 in reply to "RE: pfft"
phreck Member since:
2009-08-13

> Left wing bullshit everyone hates america

Ameriphobiaphobia?

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RE[3]: pfft
by JrezIN on Sat 4th Dec 2010 13:28 in reply to "RE[2]: pfft"
JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

Last time I checked, USA is America, but America isn't USA.

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