Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Dec 2010 12:16 UTC
Internet & Networking It looks like several companies are learning what happens when you mess with the internet - and they're learning it the hard way. Several major companies have been hit by the collective powers of Anonymous after 4chan launched several distributed denial-of-service attacks. What many have been predicting for a long time now has finally happened: an actual war between the powers that be on one side, and the internet on the other. Update: PayPal has admitted their WikiLeaks snub came after pressure from the US government, and Datacell, which takes care of payments to Wikileaks, is threatening to sue MasterCard over Wikileaks' account suspension. Update II: Visa.com is down due to the attack. Update III: PayPal has caved under the pressure, and will release the funds in the WikiLeaks account.
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RE[3]: Completely disagree
by runjorel on Wed 8th Dec 2010 17:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Completely disagree"
runjorel
Member since:
2009-02-09

So, if someone stole some software for example, and then gave it to me. It's legal for me then to host that software for all the world to use/download, etc?

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RE[4]: Completely disagree
by ralph on Wed 8th Dec 2010 17:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Completely disagree"
ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

Releasing leaked documents is a free speech issue and thus protected in many countries. For example, look up the US supreme court decision on the Pentagon papers.

Why do you think that hosting stolen software is and should be comparable? Or were you just looking for a stupid analogy and shied away from a car-analogy?

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RE[5]: Completely disagree
by FresheBakked on Wed 8th Dec 2010 18:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Completely disagree"
FresheBakked Member since:
2010-12-08

Receiving Classified "Secret" documents when you are not cleared to be in posession of those documents is a crime - what part of that slipped through your mind, Ralphie?

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RE[5]: Completely disagree
by Bounty on Wed 8th Dec 2010 19:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Completely disagree"
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2006-09-18

Releasing leaked documents is a free speech issue and thus protected in many countries. For example, look up the US supreme court decision on the Pentagon papers.

Why do you think that hosting stolen software is and should be comparable? Or were you just looking for a stupid analogy and shied away from a car-analogy?


Indeed, look up the Pentagon papers. I'll even give you a link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

and a quote:

"Times v. United States is generally considered a victory for an extensive reading of the First Amendment, but as the Supreme Court ruled on whether the government had made a successful case for prior restraint, its decision did not void the Espionage Act or give the press unlimited freedom to publish classified documents. "

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RE[4]: Completely disagree
by phoudoin on Wed 8th Dec 2010 19:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Completely disagree"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

You miss an important point in your analogy:
... stole some "100% public funded" software...

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RE[5]: Completely disagree
by Bounty on Wed 8th Dec 2010 19:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Completely disagree"
Bounty Member since:
2006-09-18

You miss an important point in your analogy:
... stole some "100% public funded" software...


Why do you assume "the public" would want that software published freely to everyone?

Lets say the government of Nauru published some software we'll call it World of Warcraft. Would a majority of it's people want to charge for it, or open it's source?

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