Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 10th Dec 2010 22:54 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Yet another possible change in Ubuntu's core components: they're mulling over replacing GDM with LightDM. Why? Well: "Faster - the greeter doesn't require an entire GNOME session to run. More flexible - multiple greeters are supported through a well defined interface. This allows Ubuntu derivatives to use the same display manager (e.g. Kubuntu, Lubuntu etc.). Simpler codebase - similar feature set in ~5000 lines of code compared to 50000 in GDM. Supports more usecases - first class support for XDMCP and multihead."
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RE[4]: nice
by backdoc on Sat 11th Dec 2010 16:13 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: nice"
backdoc
Member since:
2006-01-14

Ubuntu has become "Linux for the masses", or at least the most popular distro, by doing exactly what you criticize them for, not by being "half-baked" and not being scared to innovate.

I don't think everything they do works out perfect. When you make an omelette, you have to break eggs. I think they are moving in the right direction. And, I still like Ubuntu. Having said that, it can be annoying to pay the price of innovation. I moved to Debian from Ubuntu a couple of years ago because I got tired of Ubuntu updates breaking small things. But, I've never felt like Ubuntu was half-baked. And, I am planning to reinstall Ubuntu in the next couple of weeks. I forgive the rough spots because they get ironed out. And, the end result is worth it.

I just installed Ubuntu on my 74 year old dad's laptop. He's way happier with Ubuntu than Vista. It runs so much faster. And, because he was already using Firefox and Thunderbird, he never missed a beat.

More on topic, isn't it possible that some of the troubles that Ubuntu runs into with innovating due to legacy code in X or code that just isn't required for their audience? Getting rid of code that doesn't support your mission might result in fewer rough spots and free them up for even more innovation.

Chill out. Focus on the end result, don't dwell the rough spots and in the end, you will probably have a distro that you can proudly recommend to friends.

Edited 2010-12-11 16:15 UTC

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RE[5]: nice
by nt_jerkface on Sun 12th Dec 2010 06:47 in reply to "RE[4]: nice"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Ubuntu has become "Linux for the masses", or at least the most popular distro, by doing exactly what you criticize them for, not by being "half-baked" and not being scared to innovate.


Innovate how? By moving titlebar buttons to the left? The misuse of brown?

They became #1 by dumping millions into marketing. The major improvements in the past five years have been from kernel contributers, not Ubuntu.

Ubuntu hasn't done much for Linux market share, it's simply become the de facto Gnome distro.

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RE[6]: nice
by aaronb on Sun 12th Dec 2010 11:37 in reply to "RE[5]: nice"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

If Ubuntu had contributed a 1000000000 lines of code to the Linux Kernel and presented a nothing but a terminal to the user, it would hardly be used.

Yay, this distribution is better then that distribution because it contributed more code to the Linux Kernel. As you all know looking at how many lines of Kernel code contributed is a great way of measuring what is presented to the user. Windows Vista is even worse than Ubuntu because it contributes even less code to the Linux Kernel!

Please note that this post contains sarcasm.

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