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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu InfoWorld's Savio Rodrigues sees 2010 as a watershed year for Ubuntu, one that could herald meaningful enterprise interest in the OS, thanks to a rising tide of developers - and deployment servers - adopting the OS. "As with many recent trends in the IT industry, developers become ambassadors for products they enjoy using and have quickly become an early indicator for enterprise technology usage in the future. In a seemingly perfect storm, Ubuntu is benefiting from strong developer usage, and the fact that developers are increasingly selecting Amazon's EC2 cloud platform bodes well for continued Ubuntu success on EC2," Rodrigues writes, noting that Ubuntu has surpassed Red Hat usage on deployment servers as well. "As that occurs, IT decision makers will need to consider or reconsider Ubuntu for usage within the enterprise. Rest assured that Red Hat won't sit idly by during these discussions."
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RE: Comment by flanque
by dylansmrjones on Sat 18th Dec 2010 03:02 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

It cracked 'the nut' some years ago - people just didn't realize it when it happened.

Besides that it's GNU/Linux when we're talking the usual OS stack. Systems not using the GNU userland is obviously not GNU/Linux.*

When it comes to netbooks and smartphones GNU/Linux and Linux have already taken off very well. Particularly smartphones is an area where MS are way behind. On the desktop Linux' main area is Europe (at least when considering 1st and 2nd world countries). The situation in USA may be very different.

*This is something RMS and Linus Torvalds agree on fulfully and with zero disagreement. 'GNU/Linux' for the system, and 'Linux' for the kernel.

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by jbauer on Sat 18th Dec 2010 09:51 in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
jbauer Member since:
2005-07-06

It cracked 'the nut' some years ago - people just didn't realize it when it happened.


Yeah, about the same time Steam was released for Linux. It's just that we don't know it yet.

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Sat 18th Dec 2010 10:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

It cracked 'the nut' some years ago - people just didn't realize it when it happened.

I suspect they picked up the wrong nut to crack then.

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by westlake on Sat 18th Dec 2010 13:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
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2010-01-07

It cracked 'the nut' some years ago - people just didn't realize it when it happened.

On the desktop Linux' main area is Europe (at least when considering 1st and 2nd world countries).


StatCounter has a useful global breakdown by region and country.

You can begin here:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-eu-monthly-200911-201011

and then take a look at the charts for the UK, Germany, France and so on.

This is not a success story. It is a picture of failure on a global scale.

You might also take a look at the European charts for Mobile OS and Mobile vs Desktop.

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by dylansmrjones on Sat 18th Dec 2010 14:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Cool. Useless statistics. There is no way to reliably measure OS adoption using web statistics.

Besides that, an adoption of Linux around 30% (in the mobile area) can hardly be considered a failure. Of course this is not in all countries, but nonetheless predominantly in Europe. Of course there are countries with lower adoption rates, but also countries with higher adoption rates. Which is what I wrote.

So thank you for proving me right.

EDIT: You must feel really powerful when you mod down people, right? Nothing like bashing other persons with lies, damned lies and statistics, eh?

Edited 2010-12-18 15:00 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by Lennie on Sat 18th Dec 2010 16:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

The country with the largest share of Linux users is the Vatican ?: http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-VA-monthly-200911-201011

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by No it isnt on Mon 20th Dec 2010 14:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

If you look at the charts for mobile vs Linux, you'll notice that the hugely successful iPad is still not nearly as big as Ubuntu. The iPhone, the most hyped gadget the last few years, is still only slightly bigger than all Linuxes minus Android.

http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2010-10/SquidRepor...

Yet some people will claim that the desktop is dead and mobile is the new king. Others will pretend Linux is a dismal failure compared to the same equally small mobile space.

Fact is, though, that Linux is big enough to sustain a healthy developer community, which in turn makes it a usable desktop platform for most purposes. For the rest, you need Photoshop.

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by lemur2 on Tue 21st Dec 2010 03:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"It cracked 'the nut' some years ago - people just didn't realize it when it happened. On the desktop Linux' main area is Europe (at least when considering 1st and 2nd world countries).
StatCounter has a useful global breakdown by region and country. You can begin here: http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-eu-monthly-200911-201011 and then take a look at the charts for the UK, Germany, France and so on. This is not a success story. It is a picture of failure on a global scale. You might also take a look at the European charts for Mobile OS and Mobile vs Desktop. "

I'll see your satcounter, and raise you a w3schools.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

5% finally, at Nov 2011.

There is a lot of inertia to overcome here, especially since ordinary consumers are not allowed to buy GNU/Linux systems in stores. Having said that, slowly perhaps the rules excluding Linux from competing are beginning to change:

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/71481.html

Really, the thing to be overcome is a lack of end user familiarity with Linux desktop applications. Just because Linux desktop applications are not exactly the same as more familiar equivalents on Windows, by no means are the Linux desktop applications inferior. The problem is that most people are not aware of this.

http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/12/user-familiarity-software-...
User Familiarity != Software Superiority
Most anyone that has really used Linux, on the desktop, in the last few years knows that it is ready for the average user. The same is true for a number of other open source projects. Many FOSS projects are on-par with (or better than) their closed source counter parts when it comes to the number of features and functionality.

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