Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Oct 2005 15:56 UTC
RISC OS The debate over whether or not RISC OS should be open sourced took another turn this week when Peter Naulls argued that "certain parts" of the OS could be released under an open source licence. The State-side coder behind various ports including Firefox said this would ideally include "crucial parts that affect all users, even if they don't realise it, parts that can be created from scratch and made much better than the Acorn original, and parts which can managed by specific developers who already understand them well."
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Open Sez Me.
by on Sat 15th Oct 2005 16:07 UTC

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Does everything in the world need to be open sourced?

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RE: Open Sez Me.
by on Sat 15th Oct 2005 16:25 in reply to "Open Sez Me."
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No, but infrastructure is important enough that it should be Free Software. That out of the way, I donít think RISC OS will ever be Open Sourced, they appear to me in a position where the OS is the only thing of value they have.

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RE[2]: Open Sez Me.
by Andrew Youll on Sat 15th Oct 2005 17:09 in reply to "RE: Open Sez Me."
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2005-06-29

Also the fact you still wouldnt be able to use it if it was OSS any how, as you'd need an ARM based system, and RiscOS will only run off of ROM chips it wont install to a HD (well atleast last time i checked it wouldn't), thats one of the secrets behind RiscOS's speed, the fact it runs from ROM rather than HD

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RE[2]: Open Sez Me.
by on Mon 17th Oct 2005 00:08 in reply to "RE: Open Sez Me."
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"No, but infrastructure is important enough that it should be Free Software."

Well considering at this point Operating Systems are a commodity. Making it open source really wouldn't contribute much.

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RE: Open Sez Me.
by on Sun 16th Oct 2005 06:20 in reply to "Open Sez Me."
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wtf? why is this mod 3+

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RE[2]: Open Sez Me.
by on Sun 16th Oct 2005 11:26 in reply to "RE: Open Sez Me."
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Because it makes a valid point.

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RE: Open Sez Me.
by Celerate on Sun 16th Oct 2005 06:31 in reply to "Open Sez Me."
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No, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I consider it a good thing that people weigh the advantages and disadvantages of making their projects open source software; however, I have also seen such arguments get to the point where a project gets forked or looses half it's developers. When the developers decided to work on RISC OS it was not OSS as far as I know, therefore they can ask for a change in license but shouldn't expect it.

Talks of making making something available under an open source license isn't a bad thing, if a big enough majority agree to make it OSS then there's no damage. Damage occurs when radicals either for or against making it OSS try to harm the project itself because of the chosen license.

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RE: Open Sez Me.
by jziegler on Sun 16th Oct 2005 10:12 in reply to "Open Sez Me."
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No, but opensourcing your product instead of letting it die and go to the silicon heaven, when your company goes bankcrupt, is a nice gesture. If you can't make money out of it, chances are no-one else can, but your existing customers/users won't be left in a void. They will at least have an _option_ to help themselves. Your company going bankcrupt (i.e. unable to keep its support agreements, among other things) would leave them in complete void.

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RE[2]: Open Sez Me.
by joelito_pr on Sun 16th Oct 2005 18:13 in reply to "RE: Open Sez Me."
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"No, but opensourcing your product instead of letting it die and go to the silicon heaven, when your company goes bankcrupt, is a nice gesture"

Agree with you. Why letting your flagship product die with your company?

Doing that would leave no one but the enthusiast to reverse engineer the system like what happened with BeOS (Wich BTW I discovered before FOSS and it was to late for me to get) I just hope that doesn't happen to RISC OS

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RE[2]: Open Sez Me.
by on Mon 17th Oct 2005 00:04 in reply to "RE: Open Sez Me."
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"No, but opensourcing your product instead of letting it die and go to the silicon heaven, when your company goes bankcrupt, is a nice gesture."

Well the thing is, unlike a person. When a company dies, it's assets can live on, by being bought by others (blender), or a company (activision).

"If you can't make money out of it, chances are no-one else can, but your existing customers/users won't be left in a void."

Not necessarily. The retro-game market proves that there can be life all over again for software.

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