Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Jan 2011 21:22 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Just - just hold on a second. This is big: NVIDIA, maker of graphics accelerator chips, has just announced, during its keynote at CES, that it is developing a high-performance ARM-based processor together with ARM, targeted squarely at the desktop, server, and even high-performance computing markets. That Windows on ARM thing? NVIDIA referenced it multiple times! Update: Boom, and we have a press release. "NVIDIA announced today that it plans to build high-performance ARM based CPU cores, designed to support future products ranging from personal computers and servers to workstations and supercomputers. Known under the internal codename 'Project Denver', this initiative features an NVIDIA CPU running the ARM instruction set, which will be fully integrated on the same chip as the NVIDIA GPU."
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RE[4]: games
by Darkmage on Fri 7th Jan 2011 13:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: games"
Darkmage
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2006-10-20

It'll be interesting to see what is actually available for this platform when it is released. Does this mean wine is going to need a rewrite to become compatible with Windows ARM applications? On day one of release Linux will have more applications and how long will it take for Microsoft partners to catch up? In terms of marketshare I'm skeptical of what this will mean for both linux and windows.

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RE[5]: games
by lemur2 on Fri 7th Jan 2011 13:44 in reply to "RE[4]: games"
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2007-02-17

It'll be interesting to see what is actually available for this platform when it is released. Does this mean wine is going to need a rewrite to become compatible with Windows ARM applications?


Wine Is Not an Emulator.

http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths#head-3049e5862dfd3e6de4...

Wine right nows runs on x86 only because Windows executables run on x86 only.

AFAIK, if one were to re-compile Wine source code to target ARM, then the resulting Wine for ARM program would run Windows for ARM executable binaries on Linux ARM machines.

On day one of release Linux will have more applications and how long will it take for Microsoft partners to catch up? In terms of marketshare I'm skeptical of what this will mean for both linux and windows.


The Linux community has source code for the majority of Linux applications, there are relatively few closed source drivers and applications for Linux. It would be utterly stupid for a hardware OEM to make an ARM system right now for which there was no open source Linux driver for some of the components. All ARM systems will have all open source drivers for all components. Almost the entire Linux ecosystem software ensemble is available right now for ARM.

http://www.linuxine.com/story/ubuntu-based-arm-server-runs-80-watts
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/ZT-Systems-R1801e-/?kc=rss
http://www.computersandcomputersoftware.com/?p=1591

Windows is almost the exact reverse. Microsoft holds the source code for only the bare OS and a very few applications and drivers, all other source code for Windows is held by third parties.

This means that when Windows for ARM is first released, there will only be the bare OS itself and MS Office and a few other Microsoft applications available for it. Microsoft will have to plead with hardware OEMs to create systems with only components for which Microsoft is in a position to provide drivers.

As a consequence, when it first comes out, Windows for ARM will be very much a Johnny-come-lately that works fully only a very few selected ARM machines and with very few available applications.

Edited 2011-01-07 13:53 UTC

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