Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Jan 2011 18:00 UTC
Mac OS X Remember the good old days? The good old days when people cried loads of foul over the inconsistency in the Windows user interface? You know, applications deviating from the norm - with even Microsoft seemingly doing whatever pleased them? This was considered a huge problem, especially by those from the Macintosh and Apple camp. Oh, how the times have changed.
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Comment by Linuxcooldude
by Linuxcooldude on Sat 8th Jan 2011 00:57 UTC
Linuxcooldude
Member since:
2011-01-08

I find this article a bit ridiculous. Apple made good on their promise to have the app store open in three months and that they did.

They will eventually improve the UI over time, obviously anything new will have a few problems to work out. Especially since there was a time factor involved.

With over 1 million downloads in the first 24 hours tells me it did not bother most people, as well as my self.

When I first used their app store I never thought to myself, gee, this UI sucks. I thought it simplistic, easy to use and did what it needed to do.

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RE: Comment by Linuxcooldude
by brewmastre on Sat 8th Jan 2011 01:04 in reply to "Comment by Linuxcooldude"
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

"They will eventually improve the UI over time, obviously anything new will have a few problems to work out. Especially since there was a time factor involved."

Seriously?

Well, I happen to know that doing anything outside the normal toolkit on a Mac is rather difficult and time consuming so I don't think that's what's going on here. the put a good amount of work into making this app different than the norm. Now we just need to figure out why and if this is a sign of UI design to come from Apple.

Edited 2011-01-08 01:05 UTC

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RE: Comment by Linuxcooldude
by TheGZeus on Sat 8th Jan 2011 15:43 in reply to "Comment by Linuxcooldude"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Ah, the old Apple Person "they made the thing! So what if it's awful? They'll make it better!"

When Leopard came out, it wiped out the system of one person I knew, and borked a fair amount of data on another's.
The consensus was that Leopard was beta-at-best on release, but they were still happy with the purchase.

The jist of the conversation, paraphrased, obviously.

"It broke your system, forcing you to re-install"
"yeah, but Time Machine is really good back-up software"
"no, I'm not talking about the data itself. You payed for a product. the product should work properly, or you should get a refund"
"well, I'd have to return it"
"I'm asking you why you're not angry"
"it's still got alot of cool features, though I hate <insert 1/2 of said features>"
*thegzeus gives up*

Similar thing when the first iPhone came out.
"It doesn't _do_ anything, and you can't install outside applications..."
"The UI is great, and I can browse the web and get my email anywhere!"
"You can do those things on other similar devices"
"but the UI sucks"
"*sigh* ok, so you payed 600usd for something that makes phone calls, browses the web, and lets you manually check your email... because it's pretty?"
"It's also an iPod!"
*thegzeus gives up*

Edited 2011-01-08 15:48 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Linuxcooldude
by arpan on Sat 8th Jan 2011 19:03 in reply to "RE: Comment by Linuxcooldude"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

Well, what did you think they should do? Return the computer and use paper & pen? Or did you have a better option for them? Do you consider Windows XP (which was the version available at the time) to be a better, more stable and bug free OS compared to Leopard?

Every major (and minor) piece of software has bugs. If you depend on your computer for your livelihood you learn not to be an early adopter. Wait a few months after a software is released, read reviews etc. and wait until you are confident that you need it and it will serve your purpose.

If not, and you are a computer enthusiast, you live on the bleeding-edge and learn to live with the risks.

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RE[2]: Comment by Linuxcooldude
by kaiwai on Mon 10th Jan 2011 00:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by Linuxcooldude"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Ah, the old Apple Person "they made the thing! So what if it's awful? They'll make it better!"

When Leopard came out, it wiped out the system of one person I knew, and borked a fair amount of data on another's.
The consensus was that Leopard was beta-at-best on release, but they were still happy with the purchase.


So apparently it is Apple's fault that your friend is a knuckle dragging moron? amazing how all these came down to fuckwitts installing third party hackware that ended up borking the operating system that was installed on top of it. Were there issues when Leopard came out? sure, just as there was with Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 but unlike those operating systems I wasn't forced to pay upwards of NZ$500 for a retail version of Windows nor was I told I had to wait up to 12 months for a service pack to correct some bugs where Apple releases updates to their operating system within months of it being released. Bash Apple all you want but it says more about yourself than contributing anything worthwhile to the discussion.

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