Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Jan 2011 22:59 UTC
Mac OS X Now that the Mac App Store has been snuck installed onto your machine alongside Mac OS X 10.6.6, you might be wondering - is there some way to remove that monstrosity of an application from my Mac? While it's not officially supported, it does seem like Apple has taken this scenario into account.
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RE: Sure, title bar is odd,
by ebasconp on Tue 11th Jan 2011 02:48 UTC in reply to "Sure, title bar is odd,"
ebasconp
Member since:
2006-05-09

If your application looks ugly using Qt... it is not Qt's fault.... Qt uses Cocoa as backend when running in the Mac. As far as I know, Skype uses Qt on the Mac and it is a very nice application.

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RE[2]: Sure, title bar is odd,
by darknexus on Tue 11th Jan 2011 03:24 in reply to "RE: Sure, title bar is odd,"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

If your application looks ugly using Qt... it is not Qt's fault.... Qt uses Cocoa as backend when running in the Mac. As far as I know, Skype uses Qt on the Mac and it is a very nice application.


I haven't owned a Mac for a couple months now, but when last I used it Skype for the Mac wasn't a QT application. Other than the mobile versions, it was the only one that hadn't become QT-based yet. Has this changed recently?
As for QT using Cocoa, perhaps that's true of later versions of QT, but there are a lot of early QT4 apps and all of the QT3 ones that sure as hell didn't use Cocoa as their backend. They didn't act like Cocoa apps at all other than having the global menubar and basic window management. If QT actually uses Cocoa controls for its widgets now when possible, that's a welcome change indeed.

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RE[2]: Sure, title bar is odd,
by MacMan on Tue 11th Jan 2011 13:44 in reply to "RE: Sure, title bar is odd,"
MacMan Member since:
2006-11-19

Qt uses Cocoa as backend when running in the Mac. As far as I know, Skype uses Qt on the Mac and it is a very nice application.


Wrong!


A: The Skype UI is absolutely 100% pure native Cocoa, there is NO QT on Skype for Mac (source, have a friend who works there)

B: QT technically only uses Cocoa to create a raw empty window. After that, it does all of its own event handling, drawing, etc. QT uses Cocoa almost exactly like opening a raw X11 drawable. (source, looked at the QT source code)

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ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09


Wrong!
A: The Skype UI is absolutely 100% pure native Cocoa, there is NO QT on Skype for Mac (source, have a friend who works there)


Ok, I read that somewhere some time ago, but I could not assert that and I think your source is more valid than mine. ;)


B: QT technically only uses Cocoa to create a raw empty window. After that, it does all of its own event handling, drawing, etc. QT uses Cocoa almost exactly like opening a raw X11 drawable. (source, looked at the QT source code)


In this link:

http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6.2/qtmac-as-native.html

They say that they use the HIThemes API provided by Cocoa to render their widgets instead of using their own renderers.

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