Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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RE[5]: Talk about arrogance
by WereCatf on Wed 19th Jan 2011 00:13 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Talk about arrogance"
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

KDE desktops have pretty good support for GTK applications, including settings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK-Qt

If Shuttleworth wants to integrate Qt and GTK applications on the one desktop, which is a perfectly reasonable aspiration, why not just use what already works?


That would mean having KDE as the default desktop instead of GNOME, thus that is absolutely of no help here.

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RE[6]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 00:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

KDE desktops have pretty good support for GTK applications, including settings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK-Qt If Shuttleworth wants to integrate Qt and GTK applications on the one desktop, which is a perfectly reasonable aspiration, why not just use what already works? That would mean having KDE as the default desktop instead of GNOME, thus that is absolutely of no help here.


I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.

Such a GNOME-mimicking KDE desktop would possibly be more like GNOME now than GNOME 3 and/or Unity desktop would be.

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RE[7]: Talk about arrogance
by WereCatf on Wed 19th Jan 2011 00:31 in reply to "RE[6]: Talk about arrogance"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.

That would be way more work than just implementing support for dconf. And it would require LOTS of work for everything to work like on GNOME.

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RE[6]: Talk about arrogance
by mart on Wed 19th Jan 2011 10:14 in reply to "RE[5]: Talk about arrogance"
mart Member since:
2005-11-17

That would mean having KDE as the default desktop instead of GNOME, thus that is absolutely of no help here.

the opposite is true as well, the default Qt build supports a theme that paints directly with the GTK engine.

Edited 2011-01-19 10:16 UTC

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RE[7]: Talk about arrogance
by vivainio on Wed 19th Jan 2011 10:28 in reply to "RE[6]: Talk about arrogance"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

the opposite is true as well, the default Qt build supports a theme that paints directly with the GTK engine.


I think QGtkStyle still uses Qt for painting, Gtk is used to launch system dialogs and fetch the theme attributes & bitmaps for the painter.

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RE[6]: Talk about arrogance
by segedunum on Wed 19th Jan 2011 14:32 in reply to "RE[5]: Talk about arrogance"
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2005-07-06

That would mean having KDE as the default desktop instead of GNOME, thus that is absolutely of no help here.

That's the wrong way to be looking at it. It's really a question of what already works and who's actually done the work.

In reality though Qt now does a pretty good job of going in the reverse direction of taking on the Gnome and GTK environment.

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RE[6]: Talk about arrogance
by aunzim on Thu 20th Jan 2011 20:51 in reply to "RE[5]: Talk about arrogance"
aunzim Member since:
2008-07-25

Why not? Is there a religious reason agaisnt KDE? KDE with plasma could be made to look and feel just like Gnome if is that you want. Or a another type of GUI like Unity for instance.

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